Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED - fitting pics pg 19

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Not been out at night yet.
but hubby did say there very bright with the full beam on

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

That's ok then but yes they do look nasty against my yellow bulbs now
Hubby has said something ending in ...off !

Hubby has patented a way to fit the bulbs in 2 minutes flat. Will tell you more later.

Well the dipped headlights are far easier to fit (your husband will be relieved to hear)!

 

[RCZ1]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED - How to pics added

Well today my husband tried to fit the LED DRL lights to my RCZ. After trying for an hour he nearly gave up. The LEDS are much bigger than the standard Peugeot DRL bulb and it seems almost impossible to get the bulb into the light housing. Anyway, he came up with a cunning plan, which meant that in literally two minutes, he fitted the bulbs. Here is how he did it with pictures.

Removing plastic panel for the passenger side light (not a problem on the driver's side)

Then remove the plastic capping from the light housing

Taking out the old bulb

Twist to remove the bulb out of bulb holder

Cue size of the LED bulb

Now to the trick - tie waxed sail thread (or any strong thread) around the LED side of the flange with the knot directly below one of the bayonet pins - as shown in photo.

Place LED into light housing whilst keeping hold of the thread

The LED bulb sitting in the housing from another angle. Note tension thread holding the bulb in place.

Whilst keeping hold of the thread (or attaching the thread to something to keep the bulb in place) attach the bulb holder to the bulb and twist. It may be easier to position the bulb so that the flange is outside the bulb housing allowing slight pressure to be applied whilst twisting the connector in place.

Both lights as shown in daylight - very bright

Close up of LED DRL

Remove thread by cutting with a scalpel or knife.

This is by far the simplest way to fit these. The bulb goes into the light housing very easily but when its attached to the bulb holder, as I said previously, its almost impossible to get it into place. This way, it literally took two minutes.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Your husband is a very clever chap!! That's really rather innovative. Did this come to him while taking his glass of gin? Maybe i should start drinking the stuff!! Excellent work!!

 

[RCZ1]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Your husband is a very clever chap!! That's really rather innovative. Did this come to him while taking his glass of gin? Maybe i should start drinking the stuff!! Excellent work!!

He liked that mrizzle :thumbup: :beer: He is indeed a smart ar$* - well he is a scientist :ugeek:

He gets all his great ideas after a glass of G&T :beer:

 

[Hatman]

Thanks RCZ 1/Hubby, ordered mine on Friday, you make it look easy.

I had to change my n/s rear stop/tail lamp which was much easier, undo thumb screws, pop light out, swap lamp. Looked at manual afterwards & procedure in there. I did not disconnect the connection block or remove grommet though(which would have been easier again)just held light in one hand close to car. Fitted to car, without doing screws up, check working(by this time I had an audience in Halfrauds car park so brakes could also be checked). Do up thumbscrews, push boot cover back on, done. 5 min job.

Sorry if I am sounding over cautious, is there any risk of fire with leaving the thread in place with heat from lamp ?

 

[RCZ1]

Hatman, my husband has also had second thoughts about keeping the thread on so will be removing it this morning. I have amended the text in my instructions to show this. Better to be save than sorry. You can always attach another thread when you need to remove the bulbs on the future.

Thanks

 

[Anonymous]

Great photos and instruction ,well done to Mr RCZ1 for getting them done in the end :clap:
maybe the G&T did help
my old man , just would have pack in after the first 30 minutes :eusa-whistle:
did he fit your foot rest too , or did you let him off until today ??

 

[RCZ1]

Great photos and instruction ,well done to Mr RCZ1 for getting them done in the end :clap:
maybe the G&T did help
my old man , just would have pack in after the first 30 minutes :eusa-whistle:
did he fit your foot rest too , or did you let him off until today ??

Thanks speedy lady. Yes he fitted the footrest too. There are some pictures in the Gallery.

 

[RCZ-Performance]

Thanks for the photos and tip, these will come in handy for those that have similar issues with this install. As previously mentioned, it seems RCZ's are different as I can replace the bulbs in 5 minutes, both sides, with no thread etc. needed.

:thumbup:

 

[RCZ1]

Well I'm not entirely happy

While out today got behind a car and thought Mm, I can only see one of my lights in the back of his car. Stopped a bit further down the road and yes, only one working. So I turned them off via the menu. Got home this evening and switched them back on again with hubby watching and they both came on. Turned on side lights and the one that wasn't working went very dim whilst the drivers side stayed as it was. Tried this a few times and each time, something different happened. Hubby wiggled a few wires and looks like I have a loose connection with one of the wires. So will have to take the LEDs out, put 2 more OEM bulbs and fit them, then take the car to the dealer to be sorted out. TBH I wish to god I hadn't bothered with different lights. I knew it would be more trouble than it's worth. Give me yellow anyday

 

[RCZ1]

Update on the LED installation. Whilst the LEDs are now working they don't appear to be working as intended. Regardless of whether driving lights or side lights are selected, the LEDs continue to illuminate at the high intensity (21w) level. The side light (5w) illumination does work but only if the driving light feed is disconnected. In other words, regardless of setting, the 21w always seems to be selected. Is this how it operates on other RCZs or do other members see the different light levels?

The other thing is, the DRL's do not go out when headlights are selected, which I believe is illegal?

I would appreciate anyone's input on this, who knows a thing or two about lights / electrics

 

[RCZ-Performance]

Update on the LED installation. Whilst the LEDs are now working they don't appear to be working as intended. Regardless of whether driving lights or side lights are selected, the LEDs continue to illuminate at the high intensity (21w) level. The side light (5w) illumination does work but only if the driving light feed is disconnected. In other words, regardless of setting, the 21w always seems to be selected. Is this how it operates on other RCZs or do other members see the different light levels?

The other thing is, the DRL's do not go out when headlights are selected, which I believe is illegal?

I would appreciate anyone's input on this, who knows a thing or two about lights / electrics

This is how these LED DRLs work with the RCZ and this is known and mentioned previously. The reason for getting LED lights is for the brightness of them. So the behaviour you listed I hate to say is normal in this case.

 

[Anonymous]

Update on the LED installation. Whilst the LEDs are now working they don't appear to be working as intended. Regardless of whether driving lights or side lights are selected, the LEDs continue to illuminate at the high intensity (21w) level. The side light (5w) illumination does work but only if the driving light feed is disconnected. In other words, regardless of setting, the 21w always seems to be selected. Is this how it operates on other RCZs or do other members see the different light levels?

The other thing is, the DRL's do not go out when headlights are selected, which I believe is illegal?

I would appreciate anyone's input on this, who knows a thing or two about lights / electrics

Mine do not go out either but I cannot tell you definitively if they dim when the headlights are on. I found this document which may be of interest.

http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/d ... lights.pdf

I have never been stopped for having them on in tandem but it has made me wonder about the legality of it now you've mentioned it.

 

[RCZ1]

Update on the LED installation. Whilst the LEDs are now working they don't appear to be working as intended. Regardless of whether driving lights or side lights are selected, the LEDs continue to illuminate at the high intensity (21w) level. The side light (5w) illumination does work but only if the driving light feed is disconnected. In other words, regardless of setting, the 21w always seems to be selected. Is this how it operates on other RCZs or do other members see the different light levels?

The other thing is, the DRL's do not go out when headlights are selected, which I believe is illegal?

I would appreciate anyone's input on this, who knows a thing or two about lights / electrics

Mine do not go out either but I cannot tell you definitively if they dim when the headlights are on. I found this document which may be of interest.

http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/d ... lights.pdf

I have never been stopped for having them on in tandem but it has made me wonder about the legality of it now you've mentioned it.

I think you will find mrizzle, that they don't dim when you put your headlights on. Having read that link, I'm correct in thinking that they are illegal and dazzle drivers at night. So I'm afraid that is that. I've put OEM bulbs back in and everything is working as normal.
That's how its going to stay.

 

[Anonymous]

Hmm that's rather what I thought from reading that too. I'm not quite sure what to do now. I love the look of them as the yellow tinge of the headlights is horrible. However, I do not wish to dazzle other drivers nor negate my insurance by driving with illegal lighting. Hmmm...

 

[Anonymous]

The light output is relative to the current or voltage applied and the case led bulbs which need very little of the latter they will operate at maximum output there is no way on earth a led bulb will blind on coming traffic as they do NOT project a light beam as such and also they are set lower than headlamp level rcz1 your being a bit preemptive by removing them for this reason but its your choice

Also these 92smd bulbs are 360 degree bulbs ie the light outputs are spread in a circle hence no beam my drls have 5 watt individual front and centre single led the rest of light is spread around the lense so you have as much chance of blinding grasshoppers gaffer :lol:

 

[RCZ1]

I think you are not reading my previous post correctly. The intensity of the LEDs is not the issue. The fact is that despite having twin contacts as per a standard a 380 21/5w bulb, the LEDs do not switch from DRL output to side light output when required therefore they re not working correctly as a replacement for standard bulbs. Will a ballast resister across the DRL feed address this issue does anyone know?

The DRL is brighter than the headlights, which is not legal, in anyone's book!

 

[Anonymous]

The light output is relative to the current or voltage applied and the case led bulbs which need very little of the latter they will operate at maximum output there is no way on earth a led bulb will blind on coming traffic as they do NOT project a light beam as such and also they are set lower than headlamp level rcz1 your being a bit preemptive by removing them for this reason but its your choice

Yes I agree, the LED bulbs produce a bright but not powerful light, in fact when I tried LED headlamp bulbs (to match the DRLs) they were USLESS to "see" by, but a nice bright light.
We all have many cars around with DRLs now, do not see to many that dim at night and do not see ANY that would blind oncoming drivers. Stupid HID conversions however, is another matter.

 

[RCZ1]

The bulbs DO NOT switch from DRL to side lights, which is what the OEM are intended to do. I'm now £30 out of pocket because the lights do not do what they are supposed to do and I'm not prepared to take the risk, just to have a white light and/or invalidate insurance. I only want to know why they don't change from one to the other ?