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Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED - fitting pics pg 19

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Rcz1 request a replacement pair the
92 ands need to be of the canbus type which should have built in resistors check the bulbs dim before fitting them into the headlamp and you say they are brighter than the dipped beam well they are really neediing replaced as well the OEMs are crap bulbs go for the 100% Phillips extreme bulbs
 

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RCZ1 said:
The bulbs DO NOT switch from DRL to side lights, which is what the OEM are intended to do. I'm now £30 out of pocket because the lights do not do what they are supposed to do and I'm not prepared to take the risk, just to have a white light and/or invalidate insurance. I only want to know why they don't change from one to the other ?

RCZ1, if you feel in any way I miss-sold the bulbs too you, then by all means I will take them back and refund your money. I have sold a lot of these bulbs to people in many countries, with the buyers knowledge that this is an upgrade that is designed for enhancement, and that it is the buyers responsibility to check local laws for use. I know that those that have done this upgrade are happy with the results.
 

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jassyo06 said:
Rcz1 request a replacement pair the
92 ands need to be of the canbus type which should have built in resistors check the bulbs dim before fitting them into the headlamp and you say they are brighter than the dipped beam well they are really neediing replaced as well the OEMs are crap bulbs go for the 100% Phillips extreme bulbs

The bulbs I sell are canbus compatible. These are the same bulbs you can buy from Autobulbs Direct, the same ones you have bought and used ;)
 

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RCZ1 said:
The bulbs DO NOT switch from DRL to side lights, which is what the OEM are intended to do. I'm now £30 out of pocket because the lights do not do what they are supposed to do and I'm not prepared to take the risk, just to have a white light and/or invalidate insurance. I only want to know why they don't change from one to the other ?

RCZ1, if you feel in any way I miss-sold the bulbs too you, then by all means I will take them back and refund your money. I have sold a lot of these bulbs to people in many countries, with the buyers knowledge that this is an upgrade that is designed for enhancement, and that it is the buyers responsibility to check local laws for use. I know that those that have done this upgrade are happy with the results.

Steve, I don't feel for one minute that you have mis-sold the bulbs to me and I apologise if it has come across like that. I don't think it's the LED bulbs, I think it's the car not liking them. If there was a way around this, I would put them back in, because they do look good but I don't want to run the risk of being pulled over. Thanks for the offer anyway, but it was my own choice to buy them. Me and electrics don't go together :)
 
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My LED DRLs do dim when the headlights are on and brighten when the headlights are off !
 
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RCZ-Performance said:
jassyo06 said:
Rcz1 request a replacement pair the
92 ands need to be of the canbus type which should have built in resistors check the bulbs dim before fitting them into the headlamp and you say they are brighter than the dipped beam well they are really neediing replaced as well the OEMs are crap bulbs go for the 100% Phillips extreme bulbs

The bulbs I sell are canbus compatible. These are the same bulbs you can buy from Autobulbs Direct, the same ones you have bought and used ;)[/qu
Steve l don't have the 360/92 smd bulbs as drls l only have them in red in the rears l went through 3 set's of front bulbs before they would work properly thats what l am saying l know your bulbs are the same buying a resistors on top of these bulbs they will dim
 

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Well I've just read the whole of this thread and I've now got a headache !

Jassy - it seems that you have the 380/360 5 watts as your DRLs, is that still correct and yours do actually dim when putting on sidelights and headlights? Jactac also seems to have had the same problems as me with the 380/92 bulbs and replaced them with the ones Jassy has, which seem to work fine.

If this is the case I may try them and if they don't work, then I'm calling it a day :(
 

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RCZ1 said:
Well I've just read the whole of this thread and I've now got a headache !

Jassy - it seems that you have the 380/360 5 watts as your DRLs, is that still correct and yours do actually dim when putting on sidelights and headlights? Jactac also seems to have had the same problems as me with the 380/92 bulbs and replaced them with the ones Jassy has, which seem to work fine.

If this is the case I may try them and if they don't work, then I'm calling it a day :(

Well I truly believe that the 380/92's are correct as they are P21/5W replacement bulbs (what the RCZ use for DRL's). Whether they have 60 or 92 LED's on them should not make a difference.

380 (P21/5W) LED Bulbs

If these require a resisitor to provide the dimming effect, then I will look into this now and post once I have the answer.

I am not familiar with a 380/360 other than 380 is for the type of bulb and 360 means 360 degrees. Jassy, it looks like your input is needed here once again ;)
 
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After a year with my LED DRL's I set aside this afternoon to change them back to OEM's as the drivers side one only worked if it chose to and never as bright as the passenger side one. It appears to me that albeit more pleasing on the eye, they do not function as the DRL's are intended and so I too will not be replacing my OEM's again with LED's unless I read off a new one to the market that will work correctly and in tandem
 

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Well I have ordered some different ones and if these don't work as intended then I will give up.

I also ordered the Phillips 100% Extreme bulbs whilst I was at it. Hopefully they at least will work.
 
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This has always been the case with these bulbs when used as drls.the ones I have aint of the canbus type l got these just before the 360/92smd bulb came out .the drls do not need to be of the canbus type to work as drls so the 360/60smds would work.its only the rear stop/tail bulbs that need to be of the canbus type.as I said before fitting these bulbs try them out of the headlamp unit with the ignition on to test the functioning.its not Stevens fault with these bulbs.rcz1 you will the 100% extreme bulbs.persevererance with these bulbs is a must l done 3 sets before getting it right
 

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jassyo06 said:
This has always been the case with these bulbs when used as drls.the ones I have aint of the canbus type l got these just before the 360/92smd bulb came out .the drls do not need to be of the canbus type to work as drls so the 360/60smds would work.its only the rear stop/tail bulbs that need to be of the canbus type.as I said before fitting these bulbs try them out of the headlamp unit with the ignition on to test the functioning.its not Stevens fault with these bulbs.rcz1 you will the 100% extreme bulbs.persevererance with these bulbs is a must l done 3 sets before getting it right

The 360/60 bulbs are the ones I've ordered so fingers crossed they work. I will report back once I receive and fit them. I want to make it quite clear that it's not Steve's fault the 92smd didn't work for me. Other people have bought them and been fine with them.
Thanks for the advice Jassy.
 

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Thanks Jassy and RCZ1 for clearing this up. Looking forward to hearing from you in regards to the outcome with the other bulbs RCZ1.
 

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Well hubby has fitted my new bulbs. I fitted the 360/60 LED DRL's. They are shorter than the 92 SMDs so fitting was a doddle, as they are the same size as the OEM bulbs. The good news is that they are both working. The not so good news is that they don't go off when you turn your sidelights or headlights on. However, as I was out last night when it was just becoming dark, I was carrying out a little survey of lights. Those cars that have fancy DRLs ie signature lights appear to stay on when they have their headlights on, so I'm a little confused about the rights or wrongs of this.

I also fitted the Phillips Extreme +100% headlight bulbs. These are Much brighter than the OEM bulbs and throw out a long and wide light onto the road. In daylight, the headlight bulbs look more yellow than the DRLs but at night the two match quite nicely.
They are both white lights. On the whole, I'm quite happy with the lights now, so figures crossed that they continue to work as they do now.

Pics of the lights in day mode


Pics at night - DRLs and headlights on
 
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Those cars that have fancy DRLs ie signature lights appear to stay on when they have their headlights on, so I'm a little confused about the rights or wrongs of this.
Yea the 4 rings BMW use as there DRL's do still stay on when the lights are on dipped or full beam.
 

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Great reply RCZ1 and thanks.

So what I get from this are the following:

1. 360/60 as 360 degrees of bulbs and 60 LED's, but the model number is 380 as this replaces a P21/5W.
2. The 380/60 are easier fit than the 380/92 as they are shorter.
3. The 380/60 do nothing different than the 380/92 as in dim when required by the RCZ lighting system.
4. That other cars DRL's do not dim as thought either. I have noticed that with some cars that have DRL's close to the indicators, that the DRL's will either dim or go out when the indicator flashes (makes sense). But for the RCZ the indicators and DRL's are not close and so it doesn't make sense. I wonder that during an MOT would that even be identified.
5. Glad you like the Phillips Extreme, that is why I chose them over others and sell them. To get a true white light a HID conversion is the way to go ;)

Would you say that the 60 LED's give as much brightness as the 92 LED's?
 

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Great reply RCZ1 and thanks.

So what I get from this are the following:


5. Glad you like the Phillips Extreme, that is why I chose them over others and sell them. To get a true white light a HID conversion is the way to go ;)

Would you say that the 60 LED's give as much brightness as the 92 LED's?

I can't see the Philips Extreme Bulbs on your website, only the Diamond Vision ones. ?

Obviously the 92s have more LEDS but I would say its hard to tell a difference between the two. The 60s are still bright :)

When I turn on my side lights, there is a flicker of the lights, as if it's trying to turn off the DRLs, but they stay on.

I shall continue my survey of DRLs as the nights are drawing in now :(
 

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Great reply RCZ1 and thanks.

So what I get from this are the following:


5. Glad you like the Phillips Extreme, that is why I chose them over others and sell them. To get a true white light a HID conversion is the way to go ;)

Would you say that the 60 LED's give as much brightness as the 92 LED's?

I can't see the Philips Extreme Bulbs on your website, only the Diamond Vision ones. ?

Obviously the 92s have more LEDS but I would say its hard to tell a difference between the two. The 60s are still bright :)

When I turn on my side lights, there is a flicker of the lights, as if it's trying to turn off the DRLs, but they stay on.

I shall continue my survey of DRLs as the nights are drawing in now :(

That is correct I carry the Diamond Vision bulbs as they are better than the X-teme's. The Diamond Vision have a kelvin rating of 5000k, where as the X-treme have a rating of only 2500k, hence why they are not as white as your thought they would be.

I will start to carry the 60's on my site as an alternative to the 92's.
 
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