Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED - fitting pics pg 19

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

What exactly are you doing? Mine took under a minute to do both. On the RHS take the air intake off, pull the rubber backing off and twist the bulb holder to remove. Put the LED in the holder and slide it in and twist to lock.

Under 2 mins, !!!!!!
I've been out there 2 hours.............
Did you fit the 380/92's ?, they are nearly an inch longer than the standard bulb, so i cannot get the angle to fit them into the holder.

I've also noticed as you reported earlier that they do not seem to dim when the headlights are on, they did when i first tried them but now they stay at the lowest level ?
Maybe your thinking they do not dim, but have actualy dimmed but do not go back to the brightest, if you know what i mean.

This is all making me think is it worth the hassle.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

What exactly are you doing? Mine took under a minute to do both. On the RHS take the air intake off, pull the rubber backing off and twist the bulb holder to remove. Put the LED in the holder and slide it in and twist to lock.

Under 2 mins, !!!!!!
I've been out there 2 hours.............
Did you fit the 380/92's ?, they are nearly an inch longer than the standard bulb, so i cannot get the angle to fit them into the holder.

I've also noticed as you reported earlier that they do not seem to dim when the headlights are on, they did when i first tried them but now they stay at the brightest level ?
This is all making me think is it worth the hassle.

hello mate i know they are very difficult to do and a bit of force is involved these leds are sturdy enough too force them in the worst thing you can be is a bit nervous.i bet you a pint that when you fit the 380/360 5 watts it will be a lot easier,yes the 5 watt led's are much prettier i forgot to say but send them back if you aint happy.the fitting of the h7s is not as bad its finding the cilps to release the existing bulb thats awkward. it took me wee bit of time like yourself to fit the drls and i am used to getting my hands into small places :lol: me being a sparky.

 

[Anonymous]

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Ok buddy, i've got them fitted and think i've found out the problem with the lack of DLR brightness.

When i first put the 380/92's in they were very bright on DLR mode, then i switched to normal side light and head light mode to test for dimming , the new LED DLR's dimmed as they should, however after having a little play around i've found out that it actualy seem's as though they do NOT return to DLR brightness when the headlights and sidelights are turned off.

So it's not that they do not dim, they DO dim but only the once when they are first put to sidelight mode, but they then stay in the dim sidelight mode .

To find out if its the 380/92's or the cars system that was the problem i put one 380/92 in and one standard bulb, the standard buld altered from bright to dim and back again but the 380/92 stayed static in the dimmer sidelight mode.

So to sum up i think the 380/92's are a pain to fit, in fact a nightmare, then after you manage to fit them they seem to operate once very brightly in DLR brightness, but after that 1st initial turn on as soon as they go to sidelight mode the brightness stays at that lower level.

I may be wrong here but i think this is why Pauls do not look as bright as yours (see his pic) and why MrShinney suspects his do not dim , which is actualy the other way round, they do initialy dim but will not go back to the brighter DLR LED light, so i think what MrShinney is looking at is the dimmer side light brightness but in DLR mode, if that makes sense.

Basicaly for some reason once these 380/92's dim down to sidelight brightness they stay at that power and brightness no matter what mode the cars lighting is in, and this is why they do not look like a bright DLR, because they are running at the sidelight brightness.

So my question is, do your 380/360 5 watt LED's dim in side light mode and then go brighter in DLR mode, and keep doing this as it should ?

I dont want to order them if they will end up like these 380/92's, in fact i've put the standard back in for the moment.

Ps.
i tried removing them and then refitting to see if they would re-calibrate but they are still stuck in the lower sidelight brightness, so i think they are now shot ?

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Ok buddy, i've got them fitted and think i've found out the problem with the lack of DLR brightness.

When i first put the 380/92's in they were very bright on DLR mode, then i switched to normal side light and head light mode to test for dimming , the new LED DLR's dimmed as they should, however after having a little play around i've found out that it actualy seem's as though they do NOT return to DLR brightness when the headlights and sidelights are turned off.

So it's not that they do not dim, they DO dim but only the once when they are first put to sidelight mode, but they then stay in the dim sidelight mode .

To find out if its the 380/92's or the cars system that was the problem i put one 380/92 in and one standard bulb, the standard buld altered from bright to dim and back again but the 380/92 stayed static in the dimmer sidelight mode.

So to sum up i think the 380/92's are a pain to fit, in fact a nightmare, then after you manage to fit them they seem to operate once very brightly in DLR brightness, but after that 1st initial turn on as soon as they go to sidelight mode the brightness stays at that lower level.

I may be wrong here but i think this is why Pauls do not look as bright as yours (see his pic) and why MrShinney suspects his do not dim , which is actualy the other way round, they do initialy dim but will not go back to the brighter DLR LED light, so i think what MrShinney is looking at is the dimmer side light brightness but in DLR mode, if that makes sense.

Basicaly for some reason once these 380/92's dim down to sidelight brightness they stay at that power and brightness no matter what mode the cars lighting is in, and this is why they do not look like a bright DLR, because they are running at the sidelight brightness.

So my question is, do your 380/360 5 watt LED's dim in side light mode and then go brighter in DLR mode, and keep doing this as it should ?

I dont want to order them if they will end up like these 380/92's, in fact i've put the standard back in for the moment.

Ps.
i tried removing them and then refitting to see if they would re-calibrate but they are still stuck in the lower sidelight brightness, so i think they are now shot ?

right Mr H.........THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE WIRING OF THE RCZ :thumbup: its sounds light incorrect polarity in the led 92smd's i had the same problem with a set of 360's 5watt.

ie 1 pin gives you sidelight modes and when in drl mode is activated the 2 pins come into the circuit hence you have 2 elements in the crap oem's.

send them back telling them this and get the 360/5 watt's.

here is another bit of ADVICE FOR YA :lol: run the bulb in both sidelight&drl mode prior to puting them in the headlamp then you will they are functioning correctly the flex to the drl plug is long enough to sit in the engine bay for you to do this thats a pint you me :beer: :lol:

 

[RCZ-Performance]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Great once I take a step forward, I read updates to see this that and the other...at this moment I have half functioning reg plate LEDs, DRLs that don't do something, and maybe I need to buy some other DRLs (360 5W something which I cannot find).

So what gives ???

 

[Anonymous]

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Jassy just tried the bulbs in my old 2000 Astra and they worked fine, they dim when on side lights and then brighter when i put my foot on the brake.
i then put them back in the RCZ and they worked again the first time but now they are stuck bright again, but only in the RCZ, put them back in the Astra and they work fine.

My son said it could be something to do with they way the RCZ checks for correct voltage to the bulbs (canbus) on the 380/92's, cos they work fine in my old 2000 Astra. But i'm not getting any error readings on the RCZ ?

Personaly i dont think the bulbs are faulty, it's just that they are not fully compatible with the RCZ's lighting system.
So i will try the 380/360 5 watts, if you can confirm they work in all modes, bright, dim, on, off shake them all about and do the .................................... :lol:

Ps,
Out of curiosity i put the red 380/92's that were sent to me by mistake in the RCZ just to see what would happen and they do the same, stuck in one level of brightness after an initial start up, but ok in the Astra.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Jassy just tried the bulbs in my old astra and they worked fine, dim on side light and then brighter when i put my foot on the brake.
i then put them back in the RCZ and they worked the first time but now they are stuck bright again.

I did run the bulbs in ALL modes before putting them in place, my son said it could be something to do with canbus on the 380/92's, cos they work fine in my 2000 Astra.
:helpme:

Ps out of curiosity i put the red 380/92's that were sent by mistake in the RCZ just to see what would happen and they do the same, stuck in one level of brightness.

and i thought i was unlucky i had puncture today on a 1 mile drive they are definately not working right as we know :thumbdown: get the ones i have and give them a go and get the diamond vision as well and fit them all at the same time your better doing this as it you will get into the swing of fitting them and the transformation will be startling in comparison to the crap rcz bulbs.tell them of this thread on this forum with the potential of all buying from them then see what they do.these bulbs aint cheap as we all know

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Jassy just tried the bulbs in my old astra and they worked fine, dim on side light and then brighter when i put my foot on the brake.
i then put them back in the RCZ and they worked the first time but now they are stuck bright again.

I did run the bulbs in ALL modes before putting them in place, my son said it could be something to do with canbus on the 380/92's, cos they work fine in my 2000 Astra.
:helpme:

Ps out of curiosity i put the red 380/92's that were sent by mistake in the RCZ just to see what would happen and they do the same, stuck in one level of brightness.

and i thought i was unlucky i had puncture today on a 1 mile drive they are definately not working right as we know :thumbdown: get the ones i have and give them a go and get the diamond vision as well and fit them all at the same time your better doing this as it you will get into the swing of fitting them and the transformation will be startling in comparison to the crap rcz bulbs.tell them of this thread on this forum with the potential of all buying from them then see what they do.these bulbs aint cheap as we all know

PS. THE 360/380 5 WATTS AINT OF THE CANBUS DESIGNATION SO TRY THEM.but the 380/92 snds worked a treat on my car :thumbup: i have also noticed clouding in my headlamps caused by dried up moisture in the headlamp unit :eusa-think: its only done 2k miles and all in the summer months as well,its hardly moved in the last 2 months

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Great once I take a step forward, I read updates to see this that and the other...at this moment I have half functioning reg plate LEDs, DRLs that don't do something, and maybe I need to buy some other DRLs (360 5W something which I cannot find).

So what gives ???

Zombie,
what probs are you having ?
Do you also have the 380/92's ?
You can get the 380/360 5 watts from Hids4u (£25.01 per pair) or Autobulbsdirect (£25.55 per pair), in fact they are the same company working out of the same office, but offer two different prices ?

 

[RCZ-Performance]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Great once I take a step forward, I read updates to see this that and the other...at this moment I have half functioning reg plate LEDs, DRLs that don't do something, and maybe I need to buy some other DRLs (360 5W something which I cannot find).

So what gives ???

Zombie,
what probs are you having ?
Do you also have the 380/92's ?
You can get the 380/360 5 watts from Hids4u (£25.01 per pair) or Autobulbsdirect (£25.55 per pair), in fact they are the same company working out of the same office, but offer two different prices ?

I just ordered the 380/360 from Autobulbsdirect using a 5% discount code, and earlier I ordered the Diamond H7s.

I will look at what is up with my reg plate LEDs tomorrow.

Looks like I will be selling some bulbs soon, or just keep them in the back as spares.

 

[Anonymous]

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Jassy i thought you never fitted the 380/92's ???
And that you just had the 380/360 5 watts.

I'm going all dizzy with the confusion :crazy: :helpme: :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Great once I take a step forward, I read updates to see this that and the other...at this moment I have half functioning reg plate LEDs, DRLs that don't do something, and maybe I need to buy some other DRLs (360 5W something which I cannot find).

So what gives ???

Zombie,
what probs are you having ?
Do you also have the 380/92's ?
You can get the 380/360 5 watts from Hids4u (£25.01 per pair) or Autobulbsdirect (£25.55 per pair), in fact they are the same company working out of the same office, but offer two different prices ?

is that right how did you find out that ps.like the private plate YA POSEUR :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

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Paul Is it me or are the dlr leds only lighting up the lower part of the lens.
Maybe its just the camera shot not showing up the actual light. Because this daylight shot of jassys LED's are a lot brighter. And both cars have the same LED DLR's (380/92) i think.

i squeezed in a couple of candles into the headlamps for that photo jactacy boy :lol: no my lights are 360/380 5 watt leds the heavy chrome finished one's i was going to get the 380/92smds but i have decided to stop spending on bulbs just now some autoglym hidef wax coming tomorrow £29 :thumbup: and i will need to get a job asap

Jassy here my good fella you say you stuck with the 380/360 5 watts.

have you been on the :beer:

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Paul Is it me or are the dlr leds only lighting up the lower part of the lens.
Maybe its just the camera shot not showing up the actual light. Because this daylight shot of jassys LED's are a lot brighter. And both cars have the same LED DLR's (380/92) i think.

i squeezed in a couple of candles into the headlamps for that photo jactacy boy :lol: no my lights are 360/380 5 watt leds the heavy chrome finished one's i was going to get the 380/92smds but i have decided to stop spending on bulbs just now some autoglym hidef wax coming tomorrow £29 :thumbup: and i will need to get a job asap

Jassy here my good fella you say you stuck with the 380/360 5 watts.

have you been on the :beer:

Read my posts i have them in red in the rears, have you been on the cider,i have cracked open my 3rd pint can of bud of 4 cans. when i touch the 4th then the games a bogey as we say up here i am a light weight :lol:

the 380/360 5watts are wider in circumference than the 92 smds but not as long

 

[Anonymous]

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Sorry buddy i forgot about the your rear end :lol:

So the 380/92's work ok at the back ?

Then again i guess they would cos they are just a stop and tail. :eusa-think:

Anyway crack another one open for me m8. :beer:

 

[Anonymous]

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mine are stuck in bright rather than dimmed mode! Not a problem really as it looks OK.

 

[Anonymous]

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Yeah sorry for the confusion, i have been back out to the car and mine are also stuck in bright mode now.
Originaly it was dim/sidelight, but not anymore.
I just wonder if it is these 380/92's ?

I've ordered the other 380/360 5 watt's now so i will see how they perform, hopefuly they will be here in the morning .

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Yeah sorry for the confusion, i have been back out to the car and mine are also stuck in bright mode now.
Originaly it was dim/sidelight, but not anymore.
I just wonder if it is these 380/92's ?


It must be as mine are like it as well.

Paul141

 

[Anonymous]

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Paul i've ordered the 380/360 5 watt, exactly like Jassy's DLR's, so hold off buying them and i will let you know how they are, Jassy said they do exactly as the standard bulbs do ie, dim and then brighten and so on.

If these 380/360 5 watts do not act as they should i'm going to give up on LED's altogether, it's too expensive to keep trying different bulbs all the time, especialy if you want to try and match them with the rest of the front end lighting.

It's now pretty obvious that the 380/92's are not fully compatible with the RCZ's lighting system, there's me, you, Mrshinney and i think Zombie all have the same issue with these bulbs.

Strange thing though, is according to Jassy they work ok as a rear stop and tail but as some of us have now found out not as a DLR, which is basicaly the same principle as stop and tail i would of thought.

I did notice though that after a short period of time as a DLR the 380/92 got very hot when it had stuck in the brightest level, now i know a standard glass bulb gets hot but i didnt think an LED would get to such high temps, in fact i thought LED's stayed relatively cool, so somethings not quite right with these 380/92's as DLR's, perhaps they are not intended to stay on at the full bright level for long periods, this is why i've removed them, i thought better out than in for the moment :eusa-think:

Afterall as a stop and tail they are only on the highest level whilst braking but as a DLR they are constantly on the highest level .

Anway, i think its a case of watch this space, :thumbup:

 

[RCZ-Performance]

Re: Changing the DLR / sidelight to LED

Update:

1. Removed the Registration Plate LEDs as:
- Both installed - both do not work
- 1 installed with no other bulb in the other side - it works (doesn't matter which side either)
- 1 installed with factory bulb - both work
- Both factory installed - both work (this is what I left in place)
2. Received the Phillips Diamond Vision H7's today, will install tomorrow to see how they look against the existing 380/92's.
3. DRLs - I still have the 380/92's installed. Will replace with the 380/360 5 watts (once I receive them).
3. Rear lights - I still have the 380/92's (Red) installed.
4. Fog Lights - waiting until I do not see any problems reported with these as replacing these is not as simple as the others.

As I previously mentioned, I do not mind paying for the right product, but like most, I do not want to waste my money on lights that do not work.