iPOD connectivity

[Anonymous]

i think if you have a sat nav only some ipod work where if you don't have sat nav all ipod work.

i have sat nav and my ipod touch 4g don't not work at all only charge it.

 

[Anonymous]

It is so wrong, the more money that you spend (ie Sat Nav) the worse the system is. The issue does need addressing and soon.

 

[Anonymous]

Depends on your perspective. If you are used to using an iPod for mobile music then I can see it might irk you. But if you look at the fact the NG has a hard drive in it then you have a built in iPod that can be supplemented through the other inputs.

I have found the more I use the NG the more I understand how it works. Things like the 5 digit postcode issue, I don't find an issue, I put the postcode in and the road and the house number and it delivers me to the door. If I only know the postcode it delivers me within a few yards. I like the information the sat nab gives with the lane assist etc. The traffic integration is great and I had no problems creating the HOME entry (which I think is page 64).

Music, I have filled the hard drive with music and probably only listen to a selection of tracks that numbers less than 300!! The phone functions work perfectly for me. I have a sim card installed and the iPhone blue toothed and it all works perfectly.

I don't think its perfect but it seems to do the job pretty nicely!!

 

[Anonymous]

Alright Shiney, I think your spot on with some of the things you say about the NG4, the sat Nav works really well and the hard drive capacity is excellent, my gripes are that it just is not as good as it should be compared to competitor units!.

It's a real faff to get music sorted, having to name all of your folders as it does not recognise a lot of CD's, having to format all of my iTunes into Mp3, not being able to Bluetooth stream! All of these things should be easy and not so time consuming!.

 

[Anonymous]

I have a 120G Ipod Classic and used it for the first time today.

I could listen to the music and could view the details of the song that was playing, however, I could not select the album or song that I wanted to listen to. When I selected media and Ipod Music it just opened a load of folders called foo 1, foo 2 etc and these folders conained a mixture of songs from various albumns with no apparent logic applied?

I had to listen to what ever came on and then just skip what I didnt want to listen to.

Very odd and very frustrating.

With regards to the SAT Nav, is there any way of getting it to talk? On a positive note I managed to programme in couple of adresses and set it so I can select them via voice control....

 

[Anonymous]

I had no problems creating the HOME entry (which I think is page 64).

You need to show Peugeot how to do this, as they were couldn't set it on my system.

It is only the built in hard drive that rescues this poor system and you wouldn't need it if the Ipod worked as it should do. I agree the 5 digit postcode gets you close but every other system and many costing a whole lot less money, accept 7 digit entries.

 

[Anonymous]

I had no problems creating the HOME entry (which I think is page 64).

You need to show Peugeot how to do this, as they were couldn't set it on my system.

It is only the built in hard drive that rescues this poor system and you wouldn't need it if the Ipod worked as it should do. I agree the 5 digit postcode gets you close but every other system and many costing a whole lot less money, accept 7 digit entries.

I had to show the Peugeot guys how to do a lot of stuff with the system from creating the home entry to installing the speed camera database. There seems to be a generally poor standard of training out there linked to what appears to be an almost dealer network wide apathy towards the customer (there are notable exceptions to this!). I think the problem for the Peugeot dealership is largely that the RCZ is an interesting car and unlike anything Peugeot have sold before. It attracts a different type of customer and they are struggling to adapt in a lot of cases. Don't even start me on things like having to insure a loan car yourself!!

My 998 only has 5 digits on the postcode entry as does the RS4 my wife drives (which is new and the latest MMI) so it's not isolated to Peugeot. I think that the dedicated Sat Nav suppliers and the built in units are very different markets. I don't know of many stuck to the window sat nags that give surround sound, built in hard drives and card drives as well as phone integration?

The NG4 is a multimedia system rather than just a sat nav or radio or iPod interface. To those who think the iPod is the centre of the known universe then it is going to be a disappointment (although if you plug it in through the AV ports in the glove box it works nicely). If you look at the system in a more rounded manner then it does the job pretty well. I think its one of those where the more complex and complete you make something the greater number people will complain that it does not do what THEY want it to do. We all have an expectation of how these things should work, but every expectation is subtly different!! The 5 digit thing comes to mind, it does not bother me in the slightest as the unit gets me exactly where I want to go every time. Including some beaten up farm buildings in the middle of nowhere this week! Whilst I am an apple evangelist, the fact that the iPod/iPhone is not the CPU of the car does not bother me. What I want is to listen to music and I can do that with ease using the tools built into the system. I also like the voice control, once you understand it you just talk to the car!!

My gripe is the test is too big when displaying tracks and there are not enough colour schemes!!

You can't keep all of the people happy all of the time.............

 

[Anonymous]

I have disagree with your assertion that it "does the job pretty well" as I believe that it is barely acceptable to describe this piece of junk as a multimedia system. It looks good and that's about all it does well. The rest as I say is barely acceptable.
When I suggested you show Peugeot how to set the Home entry I was referring to Pinley House as they can't achieve it, so how can we expect the dealerships to have been taught?
I am very disappointed with the system. It cost such a lot and barely delivers the goods.

 

[Anonymous]

I am very disappointed with the system. It cost such a lot and barely delivers the goods.

As I said, its perspective. I think it delivers the full package and am not disappointed at all. Which makes my point from earlier, you can't keep all the people happy all of the time!!

 

[Anonymous]

Yep sorry Shiney im with Ron on this one, it just falls short of other systems on the Market, one of my biggest gripes is that it does not recognise the majority of cd's, thus having to name all the folders and tracks! What a laborious affair!!.

Also having to transfer all my songs into mp3 which has messed my iTunes library up!!.

 

[Anonymous]

uberholt - just tell Itunes to convert to mp3, not mpeg4 format. it wont help you with your older stuff but it will with any new tunes.

Sorry to be thick but just how do I do that???

 

[Anonymous]

The NG4 system was launched in mid 2009. The unit itself is made by harman becker (maybe you have heard of them? they are also harmon kardon, jbl, infinity, mark levinson and others) .They provide oem sat nav systems to many manufacturers such as merc,lexus,toyota etc (which by all accounts are exactly the same as the operation in the pug versions) and the mapping is by navtec.

Why does the system only takes a 5 digit input.....nearest I ever got to an answer was from a satnav manufacturer and that is that the UK is a pain in the ass as it uses an alpha numeric system and should use a 5 digit number system like 99% of the rest of the world does hence we get a 5 digit input as we are the minority market. I was driving a 3 year old Audi A8 last week, 60k car when new, same 5 digit input as the pug.....Aston Martin have only recently started full postcode input on their sat nav system on a car that can cost 4-5 times the price of a well specced RCZ.

While tom toms have full post code most wont be able to naviagte you around the whole of northern europe with voice recognition and command, play films on dvds, play mp3s from an Sd card or memory stick, allow you to rip something like 100+ cd's into the hard drive creating your own in car "jukebox" , have a choice of blue tooth or a fully integrated internal phone, display the front and rear parking sensor warnings on screen with coloured distance bandings, look cool on your dash....

The NG4 will navigate down to the actual door number of an address if you ask it to.

Also setting a "HOME" address in a built in car sat nav isn't a great idea, if some scumbag nicks your keys while your out they get in your car which then navigates them to your house....BBC tv did exactly this to someone on the real hustle programme.


regards

Marcus

 

[Anonymous]

I hear what you are saying Marcus.
So why are so many of us having problems with it? Problems downloading Cd's, yes you can do it. But hell, it takes approx 20mins per Cd to type in all the grace note! cos the stupid system doesn't read them. You need to have your engine running the whole time that you are performing this mammoth task. If only it worked an Ipod as it should, then life would be simple.
Insert your telephone Sim into the car and all your phone book details are accessible. However if you receive a text message from one of those contacts it doesn't recognise whom. Why not?
Listen to loud music coming home from work and deafen the neighbours at 0430hrs, because the stupid thing doesn't reduce the volume like it ought to.
I could go on but it is late and moaning about it ain't going to get working as it ought to

 

[Anonymous]

The NG4 system is like the Danny Cipriani of Media systems! Bags of potential but so bloody difficult to get the best out of it!! - the system it's self looks great and has a whole host of clever features! But it does not get the simplest and easiest of tasks right and that is my problem. The 5 digit thing is not great but I can live with that but the lack of proper iPod itergration and Bluetooth streaming when the tech is so obviously available is not good enough IMO.

 

[Anonymous]

The NG4 system is like the Danny Cipriani of Media systems! Bags of potential but so bloody difficult to get the best out of it!! - the system it's self looks great and has a whole host of clever features! But it does not get the simplest and easiest of tasks right and that is my problem. The 5 digit thing is not great but I can live with that but the lack of proper iPod itergration and Bluetooth streaming when the tech is so obviously available is not good enough IMO.

:text-goodpost: :text-bravo:
Sama sama

 

[Anonymous]

Even if we had Danny Cipriani and a fully funtioning NG4 unit we still would not of beaten the French! - Diabolical.

 

[Anonymous]

Doesn't matter how brilliant and sexy and loaded with functions you make anything, if you can't "plug it in and go" and operate the basic functions within 5 minutes, people are going to be disappointed.

You don't mind having a fiddle with things and getting to learn additional elements in time, although most of the population don't have the time - or indeed, the inclination - to spend hour after hour reading manuals, trying different things out in the hope that one day, they may inadvertently stray across the right button to press, right format to save in, etc.

That's the problem with trying to be too clever, people just ain't interested - most just want simple, working and functional.

Good Luck Peoples, let's hope we get to the Promised Land again one day

:thumbup:

 

[Anonymous]

Doesn't matter how brilliant and sexy and loaded with functions you make anything, if you can't "plug it in and go" and operate the basic functions within 5 minutes, people are going to be disappointed.

You don't mind having a fiddle with things and getting to learn additional elements in time, although most of the population don't have the time - or indeed, the inclination - to spend hour after hour reading manuals, trying different things out in the hope that one day, they may inadvertently stray across the right button to press, right format to save in, etc.

That's the problem with trying to be too clever, people just ain't interested - most just want simple, working and functional.

Good Luck Peoples, let's hope we get to the Promised Land again one day

:thumbup:

The handbook just for the Audi MMI system in the Audi A8 I was driving last week was longer than the entire RCZ handbook :wtf:

 

[Anonymous]

I've given up......

Can't get the iPOD to play; therefore, can't be arsed to mess arround with it any more...

It looks like I'm gonna have to re-rip my CDs into Windows Media Player and transfer them to a USB and then struggle through the whole lot to find the album I want....

Come on Peugeot, you can do better than this on a car that costs this much.

I don't understand why my iPOD worked brilliantly on my 2010 Beetle; just plug and play. My Beetle had lots of issues but, considering it was made by Mexicans, they managed to get the sound system working without a need for a degree in software management.

I do like the radio, though...I can get Radio 4 in my part of north west Germany on long wave.

The correspondence about the built in sat nav only seems to confirm my long held belief that a hand held GPS is much better than one that is built in. I can update my Tom Tom simply by plugging in to my lap top and it cost me a damn sight less than one factory fitted. I have the Europe maps all installed and if I need more, I simply download them. I was in the French Antilles working in the summer and downloaded the maps for about 20 Euros and they worked perfectly. Can you do that on a factory fitted version???

Do we know if this forum is monitored by an official from Peugeot? If so, can we have some answers, please?

 

[Anonymous]

I've given up......
Come on Peugeot, you can do better than this on a car that costs this much.
Do we know if this forum is monitored by an official from Peugeot? If so, can we have some answers, please?

Yes it is and probably not. I am awaiting a reply from Pinley House (Peugeot UK HQ) re issues with the system :thumbdown: They too are experiencing difficulties in getting it to do as we think that it ought to. They did promise to contact me with the solutions, but since I have not heard from them, then I can only assume that they still can't make head nor tail of it iether :thumbup:
I like you think that it should be a whole lot easier to operate.