Fuel

[Anonymous]

No. None. Therefore there is nothing at all "strange". YOU have misinterpreted it entirely which is simply no fault of mine. If you had taken the time to read any of my posts and get to know my personality then you would have realised this. I do not really appreciate the attempt to unfairly sully my reputation. I am going to comment and remark no further.

 

[Anonymous]

No. None. Therefore there is nothing at all "strange". YOU have misinterpreted it entirely which is simply no fault of mine. If you had taken the time to read any of my posts and get to know my personality then you would have realised this. I do not really appreciate the attempt to unfairly sully my reputation. I am going to comment and remark no further.

Ever wondered why this forum has 5380 users of which only 17 users have post counts higher than 500...

 

[Anonymous]

Lets face it rizzo ur a twisted trouble maker and ur scaring folks away :crazy:

 

[Anonymous]

Lets face it rizzo ur a twisted trouble maker and ur scaring folks away :crazy:

...what you sayin...?

 

[Anonymous]

Keith don't scare me

 

[Anonymous]

Lets face it rizzo ur a twisted trouble maker and ur scaring folks away :crazy:

...what you sayin...?

here you go mrizzle its been a tough night !! enjoy :dance: chill ....breath ... :beer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Pv9d5qLhA

 

[Anonymous]

Lets face it rizzo ur a twisted trouble maker and ur scaring folks away :crazy:

...what you sayin...?

here you go mrizzle its been a tough night !! enjoy :dance: chill ....breath ... :beer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Pv9d5qLhA

:beer: :clap: Good man and GREAT GREAT choice! :thumbup: The Maccabees ALWAYS make things better!!!

 

[Anonymous]

I haven't read the whole thread but I have a friend who owns a chain of petrol stations. The fuel that ALL of the petrol stations get is identical, from the same tanks at the refineries. Where they differ is the additives that are put into them for cleaning etc. The cheap fuels from supermarkets has no engine cleaning additives in it where as some of the pricier brands add chemicals designed to make the fuel burn cleaner, to lubricate and to clean the engine insides. That is the only difference.

 

[Anonymous]

...what you sayin...?[/quote]

here you go mrizzle its been a tough night !! enjoy :dance: chill ....breath ... :beer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Pv9d5qLhA[/quote]

:beer: :clap: Good man and GREAT GREAT choice! :thumbup: The Maccabees ALWAYS make things better!!![/quote]

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[Anonymous]

I haven't read the whole thread but I have a friend who owns a chain of petrol stations. The fuel that ALL of the petrol stations get is identical, from the same tanks at the refineries. Where they differ is the additives that are put into them for cleaning etc. The cheap fuels from supermarkets has no engine cleaning additives in it where as some of the pricier brands add chemicals designed to make the fuel burn cleaner, to lubricate and to clean the engine insides. That is the only difference.

Cleaner burning = more efficient = less detonation = happy engine

Try this, next time you get guests over and they ask for a cup of tea, just bring them a piping hot cup of boiling water. Tell them it comes from the same purification plant and you dont believe in the additives, they should stop complaining its just the governments way of making money.

 

[Anonymous]

Try this, next time you get guests over and they ask for a cup of tea, just bring them a piping hot cup of boiling water.

I have, unfortunately, done this. Except I did add milk. My friend got a nice steaming cup of water with a dash of semi skimmed.


Not to add fuel to the fire (lol pun), but I use supermarket fuel and have noticed no ill effects. Then again, I haven't used premium fuel before so.

 

[Anonymous]

Cleaner burning = more efficient = less detonation = happy engine

I don't disagree Max - I just wanted to make it clear what the differences were as I am sure there is a lot of confusion, some thinking the fuel itself is different quality / grade / purity / RON etc.

When the tankers go and fill up with fuel there are 3 connections they can use - diesel, unleaded 95 and unleaded 98 - they then put in the code for which customer is going to, and any additives are mixed in as it gets put into the tanker. The base fuel is the same though.

I do think the trade description people would have an issue with you serving a cup of tea without any tea in it though... :eusa-whistle:

 

[Anonymous]

Cleaner burning = more efficient = less detonation = happy engine

I don't disagree Max - I just wanted to make it clear what the differences were as I am sure there is a lot of confusion, some thinking the fuel itself is different quality / grade / purity / RON etc.

When the tankers go and fill up with fuel there are 3 connections they can use - diesel, unleaded 95 and unleaded 98 - they then put in the code for which customer is going to, and any additives are mixed in as it gets put into the tanker. The base fuel is the same though.

I do think the trade description people would have an issue with you serving a cup of tea without any tea in it though... :eusa-whistle:

That has been my argument/point all the way along. Supermarkets use the minimum legal quality available, whereas branded suppliers add extras. I know it all comes from the same refinery and the basic fuel is the same. However I believe that as we have paid the best part of our annual salary to buy the RCZ, why would you not want to put in the better grade of fuel. It makes the engine happy and so will deliver better fuel economy and cause fewer problems, all of which offset the additional pump price :thumbup:

 

[Anonymous]

Does the increase in fuel economy offset the extra price of the fuel?

Having put the best part of my salary into paying for the car, I don't relish the idea of putting the remainder in premium fuel

 

[Anonymous]

Does the increase in fuel economy offset the extra price of the fuel?

Having put the best part of my salary into paying for the car, I don't relish the idea of putting the remainder in premium fuel

I ain't no scientist or expert in any way. However from my own trails I believe this to be the case. If I didn't believe it I wouldn't waste my hard earned money.

 

[Anonymous]

This is what Fozzerman2 posted within a different thread

"Fuel is not the issue, I used to work for BP at a refinery. The process used for BP ultimate is not much different from normal unleaded fuel. I always use BP fuel At my local garage. Fuel with higher octane levels etc is pretty much the same they are taken off the same tray of the distillation columns. The 2 differences being BP ultimate has 1 extra column. This is a polishing distillation column, the majority of the fuel is re run back to the column where the unleaded is removed from the stream. This polishing column will have near enough the spec as the column before. It will have less heavy metals in this stream as they will be rerun back to the first column. Then extra inhibitor is trickled in the column for storage purposes as petrol over time loses its calorific value. This allows the fuel to be of slight better quality at the pumps. Supermarkets take there fuel from the bottom of the tank, as petrol and water decant, water goes to the bottom, so you have higher water content in supermarket fuel."

Now this is a person who is not trying to promote anything or has any bias. He is stating fact as he KNOWS it. I on the other hand simply states what I believe to be the case. Our engines are small and are highly tuned to perform as they do. Why woulld you choose a fuel with a higher water content? Why would you not want to use a fuel with added additives to help keep this highly tuned engine clean, lubricated and running at optimum?
Why listen to people that say they always use supermarket fuel? How would they know if by using a branded fuel that they wouldn't see an improvement. I know that my car is more responsive and does more miles per tank by using a branded fuel.
All I will add to the doubters is allow your tank to get as low as you dare and then fill up with the "super branded fuel" the extra cleaning will help the engine and then revert to the standard branded. I now tend to have one premium to three standard branded fuel tanks. Try it and see if you think that your car is more responsive and goes further on a tank full. If nothing else you have bought fuel and not water :thumbup:

 

[Anonymous]

This is what Fozzerman2 posted within a different thread

"Fuel is not the issue, I used to work for BP at a refinery. The process used for BP ultimate is not much different from normal unleaded fuel. I always use BP fuel At my local garage. Fuel with higher octane levels etc is pretty much the same they are taken off the same tray of the distillation columns. The 2 differences being BP ultimate has 1 extra column. This is a polishing distillation column, the majority of the fuel is re run back to the column where the unleaded is removed from the stream. This polishing column will have near enough the spec as the column before. It will have less heavy metals in this stream as they will be rerun back to the first column. Then extra inhibitor is trickled in the column for storage purposes as petrol over time loses its calorific value. This allows the fuel to be of slight better quality at the pumps. Supermarkets take there fuel from the bottom of the tank, as petrol and water decant, water goes to the bottom, so you have higher water content in supermarket fuel."

Now this is a person who is not trying to promote anything or has any bias. He is stating fact as he KNOWS it. I on the other hand simply states what I believe to be the case. Our engines are small and are highly tuned to perform as they do. Why woulld you choose a fuel with a higher water content? Why would you not want to use a fuel with added additives to help keep this highly tuned engine clean, lubricated and running at optimum?
Why listen to people that say they always use supermarket fuel? How would they know if by using a branded fuel that they wouldn't see an improvement. I know that my car is more responsive and does more miles per tank by using a branded fuel.
All I will add to the doubters is allow your tank to get as low as you dare and then fill up with the "super branded fuel" the extra cleaning will help the engine and then revert to the standard branded. I now tend to have one premium to three standard branded fuel tanks. Try it and see if you think that your car is more responsive and goes further on a tank full. If nothing else you have bought fuel and not water :thumbup:

Amen

 

[Anonymous]

Well I ran mine for 2 months on bp super unleaded and then regular and I'm sorry but there has been zero drop of in performance. If u noticed a difference good on u but I'd rather save 12p a litre

 

[Anonymous]

Just doing a few calculations.

What's quite interesting is that in the MPG range I'm working on (35-45MPG) you only need an increase of 1.5MPG using premium fuel for it to pay dividend.

That was based on prices at the moment and a difference of 5p between normal and premium (I don't know the normal price of premium).

With 8p difference you'd need an increase in 2.6MPG.

 

[Anonymous]

I use only Shell unleaded in my car, every 4 or 5 fills I use Shell super unleaded, the performance is definatly better on the super unleaded, on one occasion that I used Tesco fuel, the performance was noticeably less.