Fuel

[Anonymous]

Well 95 is regular unleaded in the uk super unleaded in 97-98 so ur good stuff in Swaziland is our regular

 

[Anonymous]

Well 95 is regular unleaded in the uk super unleaded in 97-98 so ur good stuff in Swaziland is our regular

You do know South Africa is a country right...

 

[Anonymous]

Ain't no country I've ever heard of

 

[Anonymous]

Well 95 is regular unleaded in the uk super unleaded in 97-98 so ur good stuff in Swaziland is our regular

Also, I am white, have a wife, we have dogs, live in a brick house, eat cooked food, drive on tar roads and there are no wild animals roaming our streets... stereotype much?

 

[Anonymous]

Was just yanking ur chain got outta bed on the wrong side this morning sorry.

 

[Anonymous]

No worries, lets get back to topic...

 

[Anonymous]

Well 95 is regular unleaded in the uk super unleaded in 97-98 so ur good stuff in Swaziland is our regular

Also, I am white, have a wife, we have dogs, live in a brick house, eat cooked food, drive on tar roads and there are no wild animals roaming our streets... stereotype much?

Before you get back on topic... Allow me to say that you have shattered all of my illusions now :crazy: I assumed that you kept a pride of lions as pets and lived in a straw shack :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Mac did have a point though about fuel in south Africa though no? From what I understand from a little google search and consumers in SA are faced with the choice between 95 or the cheaper 93 octane fuel. (Source AASA) So your premium fuel is indeed our standard fuel. Obviously, I am happy to hear if this is not the case. Why are you guys offered 93 octane fuel at all? I simply mention this and ask the question out of interest...

 

[RCZ1]

Get up, walk to your RCZ, open the fuel flap, what does it say. 95/98 ron. 95 minimum, 98 recommended. No name brand fuel stations dont care about anything other than making money, hence they give you what you pay for or what they get from the suppliers. They dont add anything to the fuel to increase octane\clean the engine etc.

The Shells and BP's of the world makes sure you car gets 95 ron, not 94,9 ron... they make sure the additives in their petrol have good cleaning and lubricating properties. Go read that link i sent you.

You obviously understand computers. If you buy a game and it say minimum it needs a 3.0ghz processor but they recommend 4.0ghz, that indicates the game will run but it wont look nice or run smoothly. To get the game to work as intended you need to spend the little extra money.

The guys who buy cheap fuel sometimes dont get 95ron but maybe 94.8ron. The RCZ expects atleast 95 ron and that is where things start going wrong.

You state you dont understand these thing but still you feverishly defend you point?

I'm trying to understand this subject hence my questions. Very good analogy by the way. So the petrol I do use is 95ron, which is what they recommend.
I'm happy with that. I can't see that my car is under performing for not using 98ron. Quite the opposite in fact. If this low quality fuel was causing problems wouldn't they have shown themselves after 25k miles?

 

[Anonymous]

Done them BOTH in petrol and in diesel.......PLACEBO EFFECT...........and expensive over the year for what :wtf: nowt. Fuel is far tooooooooo expensive now a days and I wont be putting IT in my focus either, i aint on a race track AND THAT REMINDS me 5th gear done this with the ferarri F1 team with the F1 car being fueled by both regular/super nowt a difference....Boring topic.........Just like giving viagra to a 16 teen year old boy :lol: :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Well 95 is regular unleaded in the uk super unleaded in 97-98 so ur good stuff in Swaziland is our regular

Also, I am white, have a wife, we have dogs, live in a brick house, eat cooked food, drive on tar roads and there are no wild animals roaming our streets... stereotype much?

Before you get back on topic... Allow me to say that you have shattered all of my illusions now :crazy: I assumed that you kept a pride of lions as pets and lived in a straw shack :lol:

Need to watch then or he'll find out where u live and hunt u down a kill u with his spear

 

[Anonymous]

Dont get me started on this subject. Its a bleedin rip off full stop. One day last week I refueled my truck somewhere in Southampton at a Shell garage. It was £1.45/ltr. The following day I refilled the truck in Northampton. £1.55. 10p/litre dearer (just in case you couldnt work it out yourself ) What a bloody rip off. Its legalised theft :x The government wont do anything about it because they are making extortionate amounts in tax. I am old enough to remember when the only time fuel went up was on budget day. We are supposed to be greatful to the wonderful man that is the Chancellor(Tw*t) for not adding the pre arranged 3p this time round. What the pr*ck forgot to mention was that fuel has already gone up 20p any way. They think we are as stupid as they are :evil:

Rant over

:beer: Snowy

Ok so they're in different towns/cities but how can you explain in Aberdeen the BP at their headquarters in Dyce charge 145.9p/L diesel, yet at another BP garage in King street, again in Aberdeen (about 4 miles apart)
charge only 141.9 yesterday? I reckon they're ripping off all the people at the local oil companies. This is why I avoid main petrol retailers. They should at least charge the same in each station in the same locality?? I stick with ASDA/Tesco if I can.....

 

[Anonymous]

Mac did have a point though about fuel in south Africa though no? From what I understand from a little google search and consumers in SA are faced with the choice between 95 or the cheaper 93 octane fuel. (Source AASA) So your premium fuel is indeed our standard fuel. Obviously, I am happy to hear if this is not the case. Why are you guys offered 93 octane fuel at all? I simply mention this and ask the question out of interest...

Because of politics.

It is for that exact reason why we have to be so strict with the fuel we use. Most of our local guys use a base petrol but they add their own additives to increase octane, lubrication, cleaning etc etc. Our Fuel price is also regulated so the only way our guys can compete is by delivering a better quality fuel as they cant sell it cheaper.

Our newest fuel Engen Primax although branded 95 is widely believed be closer to a 97 octane rating as our local tuning houses are able to run files that conform to 95+2ron OB files. Same with Shell and BP, both of those fuel ratings are over 95ron in independent test. The no-name forecouts consistently delivered sub 95ron fuel on 95 pumps due to delivery of base fuel as apposed to enhanced fuel like shell and bp etc.

We pay more for our 95 similar to how you pay more for your premium. We've been trying to get 98 introduced for ages but with no luck. Fuel for the SA motoring community is thus a big thing and the guys go the extra mile to make sure what they get is good especially guys running heavily modified cars. We thus know the importance of fuel ratings and fuel quality. You brought up the 5th gear test and they proved that you guys are in the same boat with supermarkets selling inferior crap when compared to the shells and bps of the world.

So what was the point about our fuel? We got good fuel and crap fuel. Our crap fuel is worse than your crap fuel but our good fuel is definitely on international standards. If it wasnt for Engen Primax i would not have bought my RCZ as the octane at normal pumps are just not good enough for the THP motors. When I test drove the RCZ i was informed the vehicle was filled with Primax and the car accelerated as smooth as any other car i have ever driven. THP motors running octane that is too low has lots of turbo lag, stutters, misfires, idles rough and the power is delivered like a n\a car without the overboost rush.

 

[Anonymous]

Done them BOTH in petrol and in diesel.......PLACEBO EFFECT...........and expensive over the year for what :wtf: nowt. Fuel is far tooooooooo expensive now a days and I wont be putting IT in my focus either, i aint on a race track AND THAT REMINDS me 5th gear done this with the ferarri F1 team with the F1 car being fueled by both regular/super nowt a difference....Boring topic.........Just like giving viagra to a 16 teen year old boy :lol: :lol:

Regarding your other post in the other thread, i joined this forum to learn more about aspects relating to the performance of my RCZ. I want my car to 1, operate how it was designed to operate and then 2, try and improve the performance. I also like looking after my car so i will post in the detailing or how to sections... As I cant join any events i dont really care too much for the general banter but will throw my 2c around when people are being nasty on purpose.

If I am not allowed to post here about performance related issues and about how to race\drive\mod my RCZ let me know now, i will pack my stuff and take my big mouth to our local Pug forum.

After my dyno I noticed my vehicle made 180whp. Amazing as it was above what its supposed to deliver and that was with 1400km on the clock. How much power did yours make? Car is going on a dyno again in 2 weeks time and she should have about 2800km on the clock. Cant wait to see if we making progress to my 200whp mark.

Also, have you ever raced your car? What is 400m time? What is the best way to get your car off the mark? Does it tend to oversteer or understeer? Ever had it around a track? How did it compare? Ever had a top end run against something? These are the things i seek to understand about RCZ!! And as far as i can see, no one has the answer on here to all these questions. I am here to help unravel all things RCZ performance related.

 

[Anonymous]

How very interesting. Anyway back to the supermarket vs name brand fuel, according to the Petrol Retailers Association, "there is no difference between the standard petrol you buy from supermarkets or franchised petrol stations. In most cases the petrol and diesel is even produced at the same refinery and delivered in the same trucks." I can't really see how you can argue that supermarket fuel is inferior.

 

[Anonymous]

How very interesting. Anyway back to the supermarket vs name brand fuel, according to the Petrol Retailers Association, "there is no difference between the standard petrol you buy from supermarkets or franchised petrol stations. In most cases the petrol and diesel is even produced at the same refinery and delivered in the same trucks." I can't really see how you can argue that supermarket fuel is inferior.

Do supermarkets add additives to their fuels?

 

[Anonymous]

How very interesting.

Sorry if i am boring you, best would be to just ignore my posts if you dont like what i have to say.

 

[Anonymous]

Max, where on earth did this come from?! You seem to be continually affronted no matter what I post or what I say or view innocent remarks as personal attacks. That remark was an honest statement commenting on how interesting I found your post! How on earth can you take issue with that?! I'm not entirely sure if there is something lost in translation or if there are cultural differences but I cannot fathom why you seem to become so defensive. I am all for constructive discussion and debate but you just seem most unwilling to concede to anything that disagrees with your argument. For this reason I wonder if it is best that I do not engage in this any further.

 

[Anonymous]

How very interesting. Anyway back to the supermarket vs name brand fuel, according to the Petrol Retailers Association, "there is no difference between the standard petrol you buy from supermarkets or franchised petrol stations. In most cases the petrol and diesel is even produced at the same refinery and delivered in the same trucks." I can't really see how you can argue that supermarket fuel is inferior.

Do supermarkets add additives to their fuels?

Whilst you google the answer, i would stick my neck out and say no. You referenced this video so i dont even know what point you are trying to make...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI[/youtube]

 

[Anonymous]

Max, where on earth did this come from?! You seem to be continually affronted no matter what I post or what I say or view innocent remarks as personal attacks. That remark was an honest and well intentioned statement commenting on how interesting I found your previous post! How on earth can you take issue with that?! I'm not entirely sure if there is something lost in translation or if there are cultural differences but I cannot fathom why you seem to become so defensive. I am all for constructive discussion and debate but you just seem most unwilling to concede to anything that disagrees with your argument. For this reason I wonder if it is best that I do not engage in this any further.

"How very interesting" really... you read no sarcasm in that? How very strange...