"ENGINE FAULT REPAIR NEEDED"

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the joys of BMW cost cutting. If the garage repairs it correctly you shouldn't have any issues in future tho.

Sent from my Xperia Z1

 

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the joys of BMW cost cutting.
Sent from my Xperia Z1

BMW cost cutting... cos peugeot was to cheap to develop their own engine to start with :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the joys of BMW cost cutting.
Sent from my Xperia Z1

BMW cost cutting... cos peugeot was to cheap to develop their own engine to start with :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Its a development of the old Peugeot 106 GTi design with a turbo and a simpler version of BMW's Vanos VVT.

and Its the Plastic BMW guide rails that lead to the chain going funny..

BMW have a knacker for cost cutting. same thing happened when they bought rover and "tweaked" their solid KV6 engine with a plastic intake manifold instead of the alloy ones.

 

[Anonymous]

Aaaahh, vanos!

 

[Anonymous]

Now back on topic :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

LooooL

 

[Tomas_90]

Awesome. Looks like i've had to bite the dust on this Timing chain issue now aswell -.- Been waiting for it ever since i bought the car....

Was going along at 45 mph when all of a sudden i get the "Engine Fault" message on the screen and the car went into limp mode. Checked the codes on our own OBD2 gauge at home and got P00012 "camshaft position" something rather. Safe to say it's the timing chain right?

What does the repair involve exactly? The car was running perfectly fine (apart from the limp mode) so it is still a minor thing?

Dare i drive it to the repair shop which is 50 km away or should i have it towed there?

 

[Anonymous]

This timing chain problem also affects the 156hp version, or only the 200hp?

 

[Tomas_90]

Awesome. Looks like i've had to bite the dust on this Timing chain issue now aswell -.- Been waiting for it ever since i bought the car....

Was going along at 45 mph when all of a sudden i get the "Engine Fault" message on the screen and the car went into limp mode. Checked the codes on our own OBD2 gauge at home and got P00012 "camshaft position" something rather. Safe to say it's the timing chain right?

What does the repair involve exactly? The car was running perfectly fine (apart from the limp mode) so it is still a minor thing?

Dare i drive it to the repair shop which is 50 km away or should i have it towed there?

Had the car in to Peugeot Service this week and they found a few various could-be problems. All of which were related to each other in some way. Towed the car in as it's free through the insurance company.

The car had logged 4 different fault codes and they had found problems with the engine temperature sensor (for the 2nd time, have changed it once last year) and also the there seemed to be a problem with the cooling pump for the turbo. As far as i know it has always worked fine tho.

Apparently they had only erased the fault codes and the car was back to normal again without any problems, so they suggested that i try driving as normal now for as long as it works. This could have just been a hickup of sorts so it might last a week or it might last a year.

They had ordered the temp sensor and coolant pump to the service place in case i have to replace them later on. The pump was 175 € so that's not so fun....

But, apparently the old timing chain lives to fight another day it seems :eusa-whistle:

 

[Anonymous]

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Was going along at 45 mph when all of a sudden i get the "Engine Fault" message on the screen and the car went into limp mode. Checked the codes on our own OBD2 gauge at home and got P00012 "camshaft position" something rather. Safe to say it's the timing chain right?

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I had exactly the same fault code just come up on mine regarding the Camshaft Position. They just cleared the code down and the car is running fine again!

It just worries you when all these lights and warnings keep coming on...

 

[pete.garratt]

It is symptomatic of the chain moving. This is likely to happen a couple of times, which you'll be able to clear by re-setting the code.

Eventually, though, that will no longer work and you will need it fixed. Same thing happened to me in my 207 Gti ( similar engine). Incidents were a few weeks apart and happened about 5 times before becoming 'fatal', as it were.

 

[Tomas_90]

It is symptomatic of the chain moving. This is likely to happen a couple of times, which you'll be able to clear by re-setting the code.

Eventually, though, that will no longer work and you will need it fixed. Same thing happened to me in my 207 Gti ( similar engine). Incidents were a few weeks apart and happened about 5 times before becoming 'fatal', as it were.

What was the eventual fix then? What did they do about it?

 

[pete.garratt]

It is symptomatic of the chain moving. This is likely to happen a couple of times, which you'll be able to clear by re-setting the code.

Eventually, though, that will no longer work and you will need it fixed. Same thing happened to me in my 207 Gti ( similar engine). Incidents were a few weeks apart and happened about 5 times before becoming 'fatal', as it were.

What was the eventual fix then? What did they do about it?

First fix was re-adjust, failed again in the same way within a week.

2nd fix was new parts, same as others have reported. It was fine after that until I changed vehicles some 6 months later.

 

[Anonymous]

Well I've just had the third "Engine Fault, Repair Needed" message in 4 weeks. First 2 were turbo issues - wonder what this one will be?! Look out for me soon in the newspapers or watchdog, or even check out my tweets to Peugeot Care. I'm kicking off big time now...this car has been nothing short of disgraceful. This will be, by my reckoning, its 15th visit to the garage in 18 months.

 

[Anonymous]

My engine light is back on .... again! It's had every test done to diagnose it. Now they are saying that it is either the Crankshaft Position Sensor or the Camshaft Position Sensor - or both! No one seems to know what's happening with it.

They just seem to be putting out fires - they fix something that works for a few days then something else triggers the engine light. The car is running fine - no limp mode etc but its just so annoying getting that horrible bleep as soon as you turn the ignition on.

I love my car to bits but it is the most unreliable one I've ever had. I don't want to get rid of it - I'd just like a clear month without having any lights on or having to remove the rubber cover to get the diagnosis done! Seems like that rubber cover is constantly sitting on the passenger seat!

 

[Anonymous]

Ok. My first real negative experience of RCZ ownership. Have owned car for just over three Months. Last Monday evening, just 1 mile after leaving work, pulling away keenly from set of lights on dual carriageway. Car abruptly stops accelerating accompanied by warning light and message as per post, 'Engine Fault Repair Needed'. Very nearly collected an Audi up my rear, who was following much too closely by the way. I pulled into lay by, tried switching off, key out leaving for a bit, restarting, but fault was still there.
I limped it to Main Dealership which was only a few miles across town. Engine was very lumpy, wouldn't rev, felt like only running on 2 or 3 cylinders. Got there just before 6pm and luckily a service adviser was still there. Had to leave car with them to investigate the next day.
Following afternoon heard from Dealer that there were actually 2 faults stored and confirmed with elimination tests.
Fault 1, Electric Water Pump, that feeds coolant to turbo. Fault 2, Ignition Coil on cylinder one. Both parts had to be ordered for following day, Wednesday.
Collected car Wednesday pm. All work carried out under original warranty. Have done over 200 miles since without problem. Apart,that is, from 'top up coolant' message on the Thursday morning! Slightly concerning having only done 4 miles and left overnight since leaving dealer!
Hope this is a one off glitch!

 

[Anonymous]

Long and the short of it with garages is this.

They should be able to diagnose immediately.. the engine has been about for nearly a decade.

If you are back and forth then contact Peugeot Customer relations and find another garage.

 

[Anonymous]

variable valve timing actuator has a computer update. also i had a new thermostat housing and last week a new temperature sensor which all give you those symptoms hope that helps

 

[Tomas_90]

Had this crap again yesterday, just came out of the blue.

Check engine light on and limp home mode and car was shaking on idle and bluddering like crazy. Sounded like it only ran on 3 cylinders...

Towed it to the service workshop so they'll see what's up on monday. NOT HAPPY AT ALL!

 

[Anonymous]

Had this crap again yesterday, just came out of the blue.

Check engine light on and limp home mode and car was shaking on idle and bluddering like crazy. Sounded like it only ran on 3 cylinders...

Towed it to the service workshop so they'll see what's up on monday. NOT HAPPY AT ALL!

The symptoms had been around in the R56 Minis long before the RCZ hit the showrooms. In America for example most MINI / BMW dealerships would replace the timing chain and tensioner as an "unofficial" official recall. In the UK and more so with the Peugeot family of cars there are a lot less written about the issue as most would still be fixed under warranty

If your out of warranty the job is about £700-£1000 depending on the garage labour costs. the parts needed cost about £200 so it makes up about 20-25% of the overall cost.

With my first RCZ (A launch GT 156) Peugeot UK didnt have a scooby and eventually flew over a Parisian technician to sort it out. :lol:

But now the timing issues which are inherent to the engine design should be the first place they check rather than the other bits which might simply be "bad" parts.

Its always more likely that its the timing.