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The tuners in SA are able to run higher performance maps on cars running the new Primax. These maps were previously reserved for cars running OB.
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MaX83 said:
This is actually quite useful info so thanks for the link. It won't make me change my or my mrs' fuel preference however, as I'm a tight accountant.
I definitely will blame peugeot if its in the warranty period and they will repair it, as demonstrated here. If its outside of the warranty period, then ill only have myself to blame I guess, but at least I can put the money I have saved in fuel towards the repair :eusa-think:
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Peugeot will have to repair the car as they cant prove you used inferior fuel. In the THP 200 motor, money you save on consumption should however cover the extra money you are paying for the fuel.
Example, my Polo GTI 1.4 Turbo Supercharged, drop average consumption from 5.5l/100km to 4.9l/100km swopping between brands. It took about 2 tanks for the car to adapt fully but was totally worth it. My THP 200 has never driven on anything other than premium but I can attest to the same outcome on my previous C4 THP 150. The C4 also suffered from poor Fuel quality issues and after struggling through the tank I swore it was not worth the few cents saved.
That little THP ran neck n neck with a Corsa VXR!!
Example, my Polo GTI 1.4 Turbo Supercharged, drop average consumption from 5.5l/100km to 4.9l/100km swopping between brands. It took about 2 tanks for the car to adapt fully but was totally worth it. My THP 200 has never driven on anything other than premium but I can attest to the same outcome on my previous C4 THP 150. The C4 also suffered from poor Fuel quality issues and after struggling through the tank I swore it was not worth the few cents saved.
That little THP ran neck n neck with a Corsa VXR!!
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Fuel is not the issue, I used to work for BP at a refinery. The process used for BP ultimate is not much different from normal unleaded fuel. I always use BP fuel At my local garage. Fuel with higher octane levels etc is pretty much the same they are taken off the same tray of the distillation columns. The 2 differences being BP ultimate has 1 extra column. This is a polishing distillation column, the majority of the fuel is re run back to the column where the unleaded is removed from the stream. This polishing column will have near enough the spec as the column before. It will have less heavy metals in this stream as they will be rerun back to the first column. Then extra inhibitor is trickled in the column for storage purposes as petrol over time loses its calorific value. This allows the fuel to be of slight better quality at the pumps. Supermarkets take there fuel from the bottom of the tank, as petrol and water decant, water goes to the bottom, so you have higher water content in supermarket fuel.
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Fozzerman2 said:
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Yes water in supermarket fuel is 10-20 ppm higher in water content also due to separation in the tank all heavy metals which also are present in the fuel settle to the bottom of the tank. Basically this is one of the reasons for it being cheaper.
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Fozzerman2 said:
How significant is 10-20 parts per million in this context?
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Quite significant when the engine is cold once hot it's not so bad. But you will have a loss in engine power and have a loss in fuel economy (mpg)
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So not only do they not have cleaning agents, lubricants (read engine protection) and performance enhancers (octane boosters) its got water content that affect the engine "quite significant". Sounds like an awesome place to save a few p...
If you want to save money, re-use a tea bag... depriving the multiple world engine of the year winner of proper fuel is not the right place to do so!
If you want to save money, re-use a tea bag... depriving the multiple world engine of the year winner of proper fuel is not the right place to do so!
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Can anyone help me my rcz keeps misfiring. It's been a constant problem but Peugeot can't seem to fix it. They have assured me they will stand over the fault even now it's out of warranty. Had a scarey experience at the weekend when it happened while over taking, complete loss of power & the steering jumped.. Any ideas?!
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Redunited13 said:
Check plugs and use premium fuel.
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Hello all hope you're well.
My RCZ 200bhp only lasted a few thousand miles from new back in 2009 and I had to have the whole top end re-built.
Still have her and looking to get the R early next year but a bit worried if this problem rolls over to a car producing even more bhp out of a 1600.
I would have thought that Peugeot would have sorted it out by now??
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My RCZ 200bhp only lasted a few thousand miles from new back in 2009 and I had to have the whole top end re-built.
Still have her and looking to get the R early next year but a bit worried if this problem rolls over to a car producing even more bhp out of a 1600.
I would have thought that Peugeot would have sorted it out by now??
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Goid said:Hello all hope you're well.
My RCZ 200bhp only lasted a few thousand miles from new back in 2009 and I had to have the whole top end re-built.
Still have her and looking to get the R early next year but a bit worried if this problem rolls over to a car producing even more bhp out of a 1600.
I would have thought that Peugeot would have sorted it out by now??
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I wouldn't worry too much. Top end rebuilds haven't cropped up much on this forum so I think you were unlucky and I believe the very early cars are the ones that suffered the most problems generally. Anyway you'll have a three year guarantee.....
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Finally going. After 6 months in 2 years of being in the garage Paitence has long but departed, in this time the timing chain tensioner has been replaced 6 times, both seat motors have been replaced, a turbo aux coolant pump has been replaced, the high pressure fuel
Pump has been replaced, the cylinder head and valves has been cleaned four times, & replaced twice due to high carbonisation, some crank oil seal replaced, CD player replaced, in all a bill of over 20k in parts and labour this isn't including four tyres front discs pads and wear and tear parts, all I can say is if you have a THP engine it will be carbonising due to the design. Fuel is sprayed on the back of the valves to cool them, it doesn't not work they get too hot and the fuel just caps off leaving carbon deposits. Total design flaw, and it is happening PUG know of the problem, trust me I'm a expert at this. So the lemon is going as it is the most unreliable car imaginable, I haven't even included usb issues, mirror issues, spoiler issues, central locking issues, flat spots on tyres, paint issues on alloys, coolant issues, temp sensor issues, oil leak on sump, not correct fuses, rattling issues, it has not been a good experience. So I'm hoping the diesel version I have ordered will be better? Any thoughts people? And I have not driven this car hard, and it has been well looked after, any car that's has 8 oil changes in 6 months is well looked after to me
Pump has been replaced, the cylinder head and valves has been cleaned four times, & replaced twice due to high carbonisation, some crank oil seal replaced, CD player replaced, in all a bill of over 20k in parts and labour this isn't including four tyres front discs pads and wear and tear parts, all I can say is if you have a THP engine it will be carbonising due to the design. Fuel is sprayed on the back of the valves to cool them, it doesn't not work they get too hot and the fuel just caps off leaving carbon deposits. Total design flaw, and it is happening PUG know of the problem, trust me I'm a expert at this. So the lemon is going as it is the most unreliable car imaginable, I haven't even included usb issues, mirror issues, spoiler issues, central locking issues, flat spots on tyres, paint issues on alloys, coolant issues, temp sensor issues, oil leak on sump, not correct fuses, rattling issues, it has not been a good experience. So I'm hoping the diesel version I have ordered will be better? Any thoughts people? And I have not driven this car hard, and it has been well looked after, any car that's has 8 oil changes in 6 months is well looked after to me
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Fozzerman2 said:
Peugeot are so dumb sometimes! Wonder how VW, AUDI, Porsche, BMW, Ford, Volvo etc work around this? Oh wait, they've got the same problem...
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I had to laugh when I got all the way to the end and read you had ordered another!
Hope the diesel is more reliable for you as sounds like you've had a nightmare.
Hope the diesel is more reliable for you as sounds like you've had a nightmare.
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my mate has a Mini JCW and has pretty much the exact same list of problems. the previous owner never caned it and did a lot of short journeys... seems the hardest used examples are the least likely to develop problems rather than a car used for pootering about town etc.
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Thought i'd share some "carbonisation" pictures with you:
And also on diesel engines...
And also on diesel engines...
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Figo said:
I tend to agree with that statement. I reckon my car is one of the hardest driven on this forum under the most severe conditions (1500m above sea level, 40 degrees C and track use) and the THP has not missed a single beat.
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I know my faults occurred when I first started dating my missus and we we parked up with engine on for periods of time...
was fine when I was giving it the beans.
was fine when I was giving it the beans.