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Diesels are in there element for larger heavier cars RANGE ROVERS.......etc and i dare say there are some storming Twin turbo charged diesels out their :eusa-think: Audi in particular have this cracking new Bi turbo 3.0 diesel in the A6 UPWARDS but the cost of these engines are very expensive indeed compared with the petrol equivalents

As for the rcz diesel i have not driven it and probably never will,Pug dont offer a great deal of choice in engines in their car line up, becuase they havent got the money or back up like VW, audi, ford
 

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jassyo06 said:
As for the rcz diesel i have not driven it and probably never will,Pug dont offer a great deal of choice in engines in their car line up, becuase they havent got the money or back up like VW, audi, ford
I'm sorry what? Do you just mean the "RCZ line" or the entire brand line? Cause they got a helluva lot of diesel engines available.

Do you need a list? Cause i know them all backwards and forwards if so.
 
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Tomas_90 said:
jassyo06 said:
As for the rcz diesel i have not driven it and probably never will,Pug dont offer a great deal of choice in engines in their car line up, becuase they havent got the money or back up like VW, audi, ford
I'm sorry what? Do you just mean the "RCZ line" or the entire brand line? Cause they got a helluva lot of diesel engines available.

Do you need a list? Cause i know them all backwards and forwards if so.


Enlighten me Tomas :eusa-think: and variants of the same engine DO NOT COUNT THE 1.6 THP OR 1.6 2.0 FAP :lol:
 

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1.4l - DV4TD engine 70bhp/160Nm

1.6l - DV6ATED4 90bhp/215Nm
1.6l - DV6TED4 112bhp/240Nm
1.6l - DV6TED4 115bhp/240Nm

2.0l - DW10TED4 134 bhp/320Nm
2.0l - DW10C 163bhp/340Nm

2.2l - DW12C 204bhp/458Nm

That's only the engines currently made, not counting the older versions of these engines aswell as some others like the V6 diesel and different bhp figure engines all that i left out.

These engines basically cover everything you need. What would they do with another say 5 engines on this list? It would just be unnecessary.

Sure they could make another one with something like 230 bhp just for fun but it really isn't necessary either on a FWD car.
 
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Tomas_90 said:
1.4l - DV4TD engine 70bhp/160Nm

1.6l - DV6ATED4 90bhp/215Nm
1.6l - DV6TED4 112bhp/240Nm
1.6l - DV6TED4 115bhp/240Nm

2.0l - DW10TED4 134 bhp/320Nm
2.0l - DW10C 163bhp/340Nm

2.2l - DW12C 204bhp/458Nm

That's only the engines currently made, not counting the older versions of these engines aswell as some others like the V6 diesel and different bhp figure engines all that i left out.

These engines basically cover everything you need. What would they do with another say 5 engines on this list? It would just be unnecessary.

Sure they could make another one with something like 230 bhp just for fun but it really isn't necessary either on a FWD car.


These are all demon derv Tomas :eusa-think: :(
 
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Tomas_90 said:
Wasn't diesel what you were after?

So they have 4 diesel engines :eusa-whistle: how many lovely petrol engines do they have or make
 

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As i said, what does it matter if its only 4 when they cover everything anyway? How many does Ford have? They only have 3 or possibly 4. Every brand has about the same. VAG has no more either...
 
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Tomas_90 said:
As i said, what does it matter if its only 4 when they cover everything anyway? How many does Ford have? They only have 3 or possibly 4. Every brand has about the same. VAG has no more either...


What has Ford got to do with it Tommy :wtf: as for VAG........i think they have every size of diesel engine under the sun covered 18 IN FACT AND just 22 different SIZED petrol engines not VARIATIONS of size of engines just different cc size

and poor ford only 5 of each :twisted: in europe

AND all award winning petrol engines ECOBOOST ;)
 
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jassyo06 said:
...as for VAG........i think they have every size of diesel engine under the sun covered 18 IN FACT AND just 22 different SIZED petrol engines not VARIATIONS of size of engines just different cc size

I think you forgot the 16 cylinder engine of this little thingy



Don't worry, can happen to everyone :mrgreen:
 
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Damn l forgot they welded them v8 4.2 engines together and added all them turbos into the bargain:eusa-shhh:and if l l am correct :eusa-think: these 2 parts of the veyron engine was first intoduced in the first RS4
 

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stevebasshead said:
My test drive was in the diesel and it pulled fantastically, just not for very long. Like all diesels it has a more limited rev range than I like and it didn't fit my driving style, so it didn't suit me. I'm not sure the salesman was happy with me bouncing off the rev limiter! But I couldn't get used to how quickly it ran out of revs. It was otherwise very impressive for a diesel though. Gobs of torque and a nice sound.

I have to say that in general terms I'm not a particular fan of diesels. They're always bigger than the petrol equivalent and need a turbo just to provide similar performance to a non-turbo petrol equivalent. It irks my sense of efficiency :geek:

I also can't help wondering how good petrol engines would be if all the R & D money that was spent making diesels refined enough and powerful enough and clean enough to use in family cars had been spent refining petrol engines instead.

But the money that was spent certainly is producing some very refined diesels and seeing as they're here to stay I'm glad the RCZ has one if the best in its lineup :)

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I can understand that the salesman wasn't happy with you bouncing the rev limiter because with a diesel it doesn't make sense to do that!
You will already have plenty of torque in the next gear so you don't gain anything with revving it high and it needlessly strains the engine.
It's really only from 4th gear up that it makes a difference.

You are mistaking about less R&D having gone into petrol engines. The reality just is that with diesel engines it is so much easier to achieve high mpg because the engines are so strong at low revs so don't need high revs for good performance so need less fuel.
I always drive faster than speed limit but still average around 54 mpg currently.
With regards to petrol engines, a lot of development went into all kinds of systems and downsizing but this is really only effective in the official lab measurements and the figures obtained are very difficult to get in real world driving because the smaller blocks need to be pushed more to perform.
 
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frankvdb said:
stevebasshead said:
My test drive was in the diesel and it pulled fantastically, just not for very long. Like all diesels it has a more limited rev range than I like and it didn't fit my driving style, so it didn't suit me. I'm not sure the salesman was happy with me bouncing off the rev limiter! But I couldn't get used to how quickly it ran out of revs. It was otherwise very impressive for a diesel though. Gobs of torque and a nice sound.

I have to say that in general terms I'm not a particular fan of diesels. They're always bigger than the petrol equivalent and need a turbo just to provide similar performance to a non-turbo petrol equivalent. It irks my sense of efficiency :geek:

I also can't help wondering how good petrol engines would be if all the R & D money that was spent making diesels refined enough and powerful enough and clean enough to use in family cars had been spent refining petrol engines instead.

But the money that was spent certainly is producing some very refined diesels and seeing as they're here to stay I'm glad the RCZ has one if the best in its lineup :)

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I can understand that the salesman wasn't happy with you bouncing the rev limiter because with a diesel it doesn't make sense to do that!
You will already have plenty of torque in the next gear so you don't gain anything with revving it high and it needlessly strains the engine.
It's really only from 4th gear up that it makes a difference.

You are mistaking about less R&D having gone into petrol engines. The reality just is that with diesel engines it is so much easier to achieve high mpg because the engines are so strong at low revs so don't need high revs for good performance so need less fuel.
I always drive faster than speed limit but still average around 54 mpg currently.
With regards to petrol engines, a lot of development went into all kinds of systems and downsizing but this is really only effective in the official lab measurements and the figures obtained are very difficult to get in real world driving because the smaller blocks need to be pushed more to perform.
I think you've misunderstood me. The dealer had no petrol demonstrator, only diesel so I wasn't intentionally bouncing off the rev limiter, it just didn't suit my driving style and preference for the way an engine behaves. I like an engine that continues to rev higher whereas a diesel stops accelerating sooner while the driver changes gear at lower revs and then is at the bottom of the torque and power curve. They're no fun, for me. Everyone's preferences/driving styles are different, those are simply mine :)

I stand by my assertion that petrol engine development is behind where it could have been. Diesels used to be slow (especially before turbo charging them became standard), noisy, and very agricultural but not any more. It took a substantial amount of money and R & D to do that which could in theory have been put into petrol engine development. But it's a moot point really, diesels were wanted by the public so car manufactures obliged. I was just wondering aloud really.

I'm not anti-diesel, that would be futile now that they're a fact of life. In the right car and/or circumstances they are fine. Just not for me :)

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TomC said:
photojohn said:
One deciding factor was the noise out of the 200bhp. Sounded great but I know it would get on my nerves on long trips. I like peace and quiet so I can here every little bit of sound from pink floyd coming out of the speakers.

You can easily make the sound generator less loud or completely disable it if you think it's too loud.

Thumbs up :thumbup: for choice of music!
How does one disable or reduce the sound generator??
 
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