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Conspicuous by its absence

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Okay. I'm a bit confused. We flew in to Nimes in the south of France on Saturday morning and have driven around the area of Arles, Ales and Uzes over the last four days. During this time we haven't encountered a single RCZ. We've seen plenty of Pugs of various descriptions, not surprising in their homeland, but we had expected to pass a few Z's but not one so far and not even at the dealership we passed.
I'm confused because I feel quite good about this observation. It would be nice to see a few Z's on native soil and I'm sure they exist. But their rarity, particularly in in their country of origin, adds to their uniqueness, ergo, my smugness.
Do we have many french members and can they enlighten me as to the general attitude towards the RCZ in France?
 
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mitchandnina said:
Okay. I'm a bit confused. We flew in to Nimes in the south of France on Saturday morning and have driven around the area of Arles, Ales and Uzes over the last four days. During this time we haven't encountered a single RCZ. We've seen plenty of Pugs of various descriptions, not surprising in their homeland, but we had expected to pass a few Z's but not one so far and not even at the dealership we passed.

I think I've already written this somewhere else: I've been in southern France in June for about one week with my car and the very first RCZ I've seen was....on my way back, in Germany.

They are VERY rare in France, no idea why.
 
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mitchandnina said:
It would be nice to see a few Z's on native soil and I'm sure they exist. But their rarity, particularly in in their country of origin, adds to their uniqueness, ergo, my smugness.
It's not really a French car though is it? being built by Magna Steyr AG in Graz, Austria. Therefore any you see there will have been imported, in the very same way that the British one have been.
 
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OO58RON said:
mitchandnina said:
It would be nice to see a few Z's on native soil and I'm sure they exist. But their rarity, particularly in in their country of origin, adds to their uniqueness, ergo, my smugness.
It's not really a French car though is it? being built by Magna Steyr AG in Graz, Austria. Therefore any you see there will have been imported, in the very same way that the British one have been.
Its A PEUGEOT Ron which is French, doesn't matter where its made. The amount of cars put together in the UK for foreign car manufacturers doesn't make them English ;) Head meet desk :lol:
 
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Of course it matters where it is made. If it was made locally there would be more about as the employees would most likely be running about in them for personal and business use. What part of a RCZ is French?
 
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OO58RON said:
Of course it matters where it is made. If it was made locally there would be more about as the employees would most likely be running about in them for personal and business use. What part of a RCZ is French?
Not getting involved anymore Ron, so the Honda's and Nissans built in the UK are British now and not Japanese :eek:
 
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OO58RON said:
Of course it matters where it is made. If it was made locally there would be more about as the employees would most likely be running about in them for personal and business use. What part of a RCZ is French?
If you do wanna go down that route then what part is Austrian? Its just put together n Austria and the parts will be made all over the world! :?:
 
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Chuzzbutt said:
OO58RON said:
Of course it matters where it is made. If it was made locally there would be more about as the employees would most likely be running about in them for personal and business use. What part of a RCZ is French?
Not getting involved anymore Ron, so the Honda's and Nissans built in the UK are British now and not Japanese :eek:
Yep. They are British and you see one hell of a lot of them in the North East of ENGLAND :clap:
 
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Chuzzbutt said:
OO58RON said:
Of course it matters where it is made. If it was made locally there would be more about as the employees would most likely be running about in them for personal and business use. What part of a RCZ is French?
If you do wanna go down that route then what part is Austrian? Its just put together n Austria and the parts will be made all over the world! :?:
The parts will be made in local factories, in much the same way as many many automotive factories in former mining communities in Wales produce parts for British made foreign marque cars made in Britain
 
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Taking myself away for a time out before I get banned :grin:
 
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Chuzzbutt said:
Taking myself away for a time out before I get banned :grin:

Ah chuzzbutt won't you come out to play anymore? :lol: How can British workers, produce cars in a British plant using British made components be build anything other than British cars? Even the Toyota badges will be made by a British Citizen in Britain :clap:
 
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OO58RON said:
Chuzzbutt said:
Taking myself away for a time out before I get banned :grin:

Ah chuzzbutt won't you come out to play anymore? :lol: How can British workers, produce cars in a British plant using British made components be build anything other than British cars? Even the Toyota badges will be made by a British Citizen in Britain :clap:
Ffs Ron, how do you know where every single component of every car is made! They WILL be sourced from wherever the manufacturer gets the best price and quality! If I'm to be totally honest I think you are waffling complete crap on this!

Back on topic, it would appear us Brits are leading the way when it comes to this car, certainly more popular than ever :thumbup:
 
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i work for rolls royce in derby, we get components for engines from all over the world and the engines themselves are assembled here and as far away as hong kong, I still class them as a british product though no matter where the components come from or they are assembled.
Rolls is a british company therefor anything with the RR logo on the side is british!!

well it makes sense to me anyway :thumbup:

but at the end of the day who cares where they make the Z ? the wow factor is why you buy one (sorry why it chooses you) :oops:
 
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My initial point was that were the RCZ to be made in France then there would be a whole lot more of them being driven in France. In much the same way as Toyota cars are plentiful around the factory in the North East. I was tugging Chuzz's chain a tad for the benefit of playing devils advocate
 
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It's Nissan here in the N.E. Ron ;)

There are a lot of Nissan cars on the roads here, employee discounts no doubt, but very few of them are range toppers (the way the RCZ is for Peugeot.) So I don't think that the location of the factory will be much of a factor but I'm at a loss to say why the French haven't been as supportive of the RCZ as we Brits are.

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stevebasshead said:
It's Nissan here in the N.E. Ron ;)

There are a lot of Nissan cars on the roads here, employee discounts no doubt, but very few of them are range toppers (the way the RCZ is for Peugeot.) So I don't think that the location of the factory will be much of a factor but I'm at a loss to say why the French haven't been as supportive of the RCZ as we Brits are.

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Quite correct. Toyota is Derby way on :oops:
 
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I do find it interesting what nationality people perceive a car to be. Would a Ford Transit built in Southampton be American for instance or a Jaguar or Land/Range Rover built in Birmingham be Japanese (Tata owned) The list is endless. So is it simply emotional? Where we like to think of it having been built :eusa-think: I do not see the RCZ as French, how can it be?
 
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Tough one to call really. If we had a Buy British campaign would it seem odd if we were asked to therefore buy a Japanese car? It would to me, even though it supports British workers.

Given that we don't have our own British car companies any more perhaps buying a Nissan/Honda etc. shouldn't seem so odd, and I'm just old fashioned because I grew up in an era when we had our own companies.

But what if it were a product where we do still have our own industry?

Going way off topic here, but here's another way to think of it. We have foreign car companies building cars in Britain so they're arguably British cars. Would that logic extend to football? i.e. We have foreign players playing for UK teams...does that make them British enough to play for our National teams? See where I'm coming from?

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