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Car pulls left (not alignment issue)

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When I was in the Fire Service, it was the responsibility of the driver (usually that was me) to check the Fire Engine tyres, so they were checked twice daily, once by each change of shift.
If the tyres were within 3 psi of the correct pressure, we didn’t have to blow them up, so if it’s good enough for driving to a 999 call, it should be fine on your Z :thumbup:
 

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DKZ5745 said:
When I was in the Fire Service, it was the responsibility of the driver (usually that was me) to check the Fire Engine tyres, so they were checked twice daily, once by each change of shift.
If the tyres were within 3 psi of the correct pressure, we didn’t have to blow them up, so if it’s good enough for driving to a 999 call, it should be fine on your Z :thumbup:
As a seventeen year old pauper I bought a recut tyre for my 1938 ford ten.
My father went spare and bought me a retread.
If that was good enough for an old banger it's good enough for an RCZ, eh?
 

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DKZ5745 said:
I would just go 2.6 left and 2.2 right. That’s around 3 psi up and down, so a 6 psi differential over the front axle. Try that and see if it makes any difference. If not you could go a bit more and try it, but I wouldn’t go any more than your original suggestion as that’s @ 5 psi above and below so 10 psi difference over the front axle.


As I said, there are plenty of motorists driving round with far bigger differences than that, just have a look at the tyres on the cars in front when you are out driving, there almost always one with a bulging tyre somewhere on the car indicating it’s way below the correct pressure, so a 5 psi increase/drop will not be too noticeable when braking.

Let’s hope they come up with something when it’s in the garage :eusa-think:

I adjusted the air pressure but it’s the same. I still believe it’s the tie rods Iv changed all the tyres and had them balanced done alignment countless times new control arms. But I don’t think the car has ever had an alignment so I think he must have damaged the tie rods even though every mechanic I ask says it looks fine. I have vibration in the steering wheel, footwork and pedal.
 

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In that case, I would put the pressures back to the correct ones, and ask them to get to the bottom of the issue while they have it in the garage.

The unknown cause could well be far more dangerous than a few psi missing from your tyres.
 

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In that case, I would put the pressures back to the correct ones, and ask them to get to the bottom of the issue while they have it in the garage.

The unknown cause could well be far more dangerous than a few psi missing from your tyres.

Do you have any idea what it’s likely to be?
 

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Tbh it could me a multitude of things. The obvious ones I think you have already covered. Wheel alignment is top of the list, followed by tyre issues.
Then you have steering rack, suspension, front struts/mounts, brakes, the list goes on.

The obvious thing would be if they can find anything that is actually broken, worn, or loose.

Have they checked if there are any problems with the front left brake binding ? Does the front disk seem extra hot when you park up? Is there any play on the front wheels if you hold the top of them and move them in and out? Could indicate steering bush wear or suspension issues. If you push down on the front left wing, does the car “bounce” compared to the other corners, could be shock absorber on its way out.

I am not a mechanic, but I know of issues that could affect the car causing your problem, but in the hands of mechanics, I would have thought they could eliminate the obvious fairly quickly

I hope they can find your problem soon. Don’t forget to let us know how you go on. Good luck :thumbup:
 

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Tbh it could me a multitude of things. The obvious ones I think you have already covered. Wheel alignment is top of the list, followed by tyre issues.
Then you have steering rack, suspension, front struts/mounts, brakes, the list goes on.

The obvious thing would be if they can find anything that is actually broken, worn, or loose.

Have they checked if there are any problems with the front left brake binding ? Does the front disk seem extra hot when you park up? Is there any play on the front wheels if you hold the top of them and move them in and out? Could indicate steering bush wear or suspension issues. If you push down on the front left wing, does the car “bounce” compared to the other corners, could be shock absorber on its way out.

I am not a mechanic, but I know of issues that could affect the car causing your problem, but in the hands of mechanics, I would have thought they could eliminate the obvious fairly quickly

I hope they can find your problem soon. Don’t forget to let us know how you go on. Good luck :thumbup:

Yeah they did check the springs they were replaced on its last mot last year it failed on a broken spring both were replaced. I was thinking it could be the rack or the drive shaft the vibrational noise is consistent with rotation of the wheels. Brakes have been checked also. Mechanics have driven it and said it sounds fine so I’m a bit baffled by that I guess they’re judging from the age of the car

I’ll let you know how it goes wish me luck
 

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You say the noise is consistent with the rotation of the wheels, just thought, maybe a wheel bearing going off?

I had wheel bearing issues with a Peugeot 405 some years ago, it was a “grating” type noise. The 405 was known for it apparently.

I’m sure they will think of all the things it could be. :eusa-think:
 

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You say the noise is consistent with the rotation of the wheels, just thought, maybe a wheel bearing going off?

I had wheel bearing issues with a Peugeot 405 some years ago, it was a “grating” type noise. The 405 was known for it apparently.

I’m sure they will think of all the things it could be. :eusa-think:

Could that cause the car to pull to the left? It’s also noisier when I turn left and right
 

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The wheel bearings allow the wheel to rotate smoothly, so if you have a wheel bearing that is dying, it would make sense that it would impede the rotation of the wheel. That in turn would make sense that it would cause the car to pull towards the side that is not rotating smoothly.
Turning would put extra pressure on the wheel bearing as sideways forces are then applied to the wheels.

So, yes I would have thought that could be the problem :eusa-think: but of course, I haven’t heard the noise, and I am only going on experience, as I am no mechanic.
 

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Checking the wheel bearings for play is a simple job, but the car needs to be jacked up which can be a nightmare due to the jacking points being made of cheese! Once raised with brakes off hold wheel top and bottom and pull and push to see if there is any play then do the same left and right there should be no play.
 

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Right if your car was perfect before the tires and tracking then it has to be either the tyres or the tracking! You said you took it to someone else for the tracking doing so did it drive ok with the new tires fitted? If so whoever tracked the car hasn’t done it right, there are loads of adjustments and any one can be out you need specialist 4 wheel alignment centre to look at it I’ve just had the wife’s mini done and had a computer print out before indicating what needed adjustment and a print out after all the adjustments had been done it cost me £90 money well spent. And the reason we had it done a noisy tyre that wasn’t wearing properly and yes it sounded like a wheel bearing was going down. Try swapping the new tires/wheels to the rear and see if the noise moves.
 

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Right if your car was perfect before the tires and tracking then it has to be either the tyres or the tracking! You said you took it to someone else for the tracking doing so did it drive ok with the new tires fitted? If so whoever tracked the car hasn’t done it right, there are loads of adjustments and any one can be out you need specialist 4 wheel alignment centre to look at it I’ve just had the wife’s mini done and had a computer print out before indicating what needed adjustment and a print out after all the adjustments had been done it cost me £90 money well spent. And the reason we had it done a noisy tyre that wasn’t wearing properly and yes it sounded like a wheel bearing was going down. Try swapping the new tires/wheels to the rear and see if the noise moves.

Had that done also had service and mot at peugeot they didn’t find any issues also I guess I’ll ha e to live with it
 
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