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Be interested to hear peoples opinions on this. What's everyone's thoughts would the Scottish people on the forum like independence? Do the rest of the UK think Scotland could go it on it's own/would you like to 'see the back of Scotland'?

Be interesting to hear peoples views :thumbup:
 
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I just don't see the point in it. Scotland has "always" been a part of the UK and I see no reason for change.
 
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If the Scottish want independence they should have their vote.
But to make sure they get it they should let the English vote.
 
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Financially and IF salmond gets everything he wants then it would make Scotland extremely rich.

Sounds good to me.

The reality is that it wont pan out the way salmond has in his head. There will be trials and compromise and the best an independent Scotland could hope for is to maintain the same standard of living.

Its too uncertain and too much of a gamble and would likely neither benefit Scotland or the rest of the union in realilty
 
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If it goes tits (boobs won't let me write tits ) up will they want u back. ;) just a thought its a lot easier to leave things than join em. And all the things big Alex wants to keep let's see if he's allowed. Since when was blue tits a swear word
 
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devolution is the best option imo.

However im always open to a bit of discussion :)
 
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It. Will. Never. Happen.

£millions being spent on changing nothing. Good 'een!!
 
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Do you think if it were pulled off that it will work as well as its been sold to?
 
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Politics is kinda like 5th division show buisness...which also requires Talent,Charisma,Brains,1st class PR.....Sadly all are Missing in The SNP Leader...He reminds me of a 3rd rate District Councillor that spends too much time taking Backhanders for Dodgy planning permission And just...wants to be Sir William Wallace reincarnate...its great in THEORY...but that idiot isnt the to One To Cry "Freedom" Again.
 

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Interesting to see how the English politicians are sh*ting themselves with all the scaremongering that's going on

You can't keep the pound
You can't stay in Europe
Blah
Blah

Oil and gas are very valuable commodities and Scotland have sh*t loads of both :dance:

Oh and yes I'm a jock (Campbeltown) :thumbup:
 
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Yes but most of the companies that are involved in the oil and gas sector aren't Scottish!! Recent debate is centred around economics. I steer you towards a recent article which points out (amongst other things) that, "Scotland's wealth tends to be overstated because, although the economy benefits from North Sea oil production, a significant proportion of its domestic economy – particularly in oil, drinks, energy, and financial services – is owned by overseas stakeholders.

As a result, GDP is not as effective in terms of measuring economic performance compared with other countries. The key question is how much of the earnings from what is produced in Scotland, stays in Scotland. Based on current forecasts, North Sea tax revenues would not be enough to offset the loss of monies currently transferred from the rest of the UK, leasing to a net loss of funding at time under independence."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ions-niesr


My concerns are ranging; I am concerned about basing our economy and revenue on an industry in decline, about the debt we stand to inherit, about the challenges and pitfalls of creating separate financial and regulatory institutions, about inherited debt, about renegotiating entry into the EU, about security and losing access to the UK's wider intelligence capabilities, about defence provision and our (renegotiated) membership to NATO, about more spending cuts and tax rises being needed to ensure fiscal sustainability in an independent Scotland. Then there is the issue regarding the security of pensions due to an ageing and declining population...


I am all for debate and I won't belittle anyone for their views. However, there remains more questions than answers in my opinion and the fact of the matter is, I have seen nothing to sway me that independence will be better for Scotland and its people.
Opinion polls would suggest that you and the "millions of others" are becoming an increasingly fragile minority:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... ealed-poll

Now, let's consider Alex Salmond. Yes, there is an argument that we are voting for the future of our country and this shouldn't be entirely based on one man but, when that man is the one responsible for selling a vision that he himself seems somewhat unclear on, it's a rather unsettling prospect to place your faith in him, his campaign's "facts" and changing views.
http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analy ... and-now-he



Don't get me wrong, the 'Better Together' campaign is terrible. It bases itself on negative campaigning and scaremongering.


(Ron, factually your statement is rather inaccurate.) We were an independent country for far longer than we have been part of the union but this is in no way a reason for returning to independent status. There is literally nothing to suggest that we were better off on our own. In fact, had we remained a sovereign nation then much of the infrastructure and developments that have contributed to our success would never have been possible.

I am all for debate and I won't belittle anyone for their views. However, there remains more questions than answers in my opinion and the fact of the matter is, I have seen nothing to sway me that independence will be better for Scotland and its people.
 
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Rizz. Hence the inverted commas
I'm not ignorant of the history of our nation. Merely eluding to our more recent history as time has moved on since the civil wars


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Sorry Ron, I'm not suggesting that you are. I merely misinterpreted your point. Apologies!
 

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Nice to know that there's so much rational and informed thinking going on about which way to vote in the referendum! :thumbup:
 

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Hi all' ,,ahh' politics ,a subject that has the capacity to split a union, the forum and individuals! My name 'the big blue" is not a demonstration of which side of the border I support albeit my mum was born and bred in Edinburgh ,,yet i'm as Southern as an episode of Eastenders ..joke, as my life doesn't evolve around a square, a cafe, a boozer and my Z' being worked on in a Cut & Shut business in the arches ,,BUT i was born in London!

The argument for OR against is a difficult one that is made harder due to politicians who by their nature prefer an adversarial debate as opposed to an inquisitorial one. Is it really too much to ask that folk are given both fair and balanced facts as opposed to the spin that politicians prefer as a way of blinding voters, i.e: this way for more money in your pocket and wealth beyond your wildest dreams OR that way for less money in your pocket and a downward spiral into hell damnation. If only life was that simple !

.the big blue (a back bencher who would like to see the world as it use to be depict in the Coca Cola adverts from my youth)!

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