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Hi,Guys.I have a 2011 RCZ 156HP Auto and was interested in getting my vehicle Remapped.Has anyone else done this and if so was there any noticeable gains in performance.
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RCZ-Performance
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Aussiefrog said:
Depending on the remapper and what you ask them to do will depict your results. Creating a nice power curve so that you feel more performance during mid and upper RPM's is the usual request for remapping as you usually want this when driving on the streets for coming out of corners and passing other cars, but then you may want to push your car to the maximum, in which case only you and the remapper will be able to determine this. Remember increasing power increases wear and tear on everything.
Do your research and find a remapper that you can trust modifying your cars ECU and will not just stand behind it but cover the work in the event something happens, most remappers will not do this so be prepared to accept the outcome.
We do not have any specific results for the THP156 as we run a THP200 and we are up and over 250bhp. But here is a link to our page that might be able to assist you:
http://www.rczperformance.com/EngineTuning.html#Superchips
Alternatively we sell the RaceChip module:
http://shop.rczperformance.com/category.sc?categoryId=50
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RCZ-Performance said:
Hi RCZ Performance,
I'm looking at increasing the performance of my RCZ 200 and looking at various options. What would you recommend.
Exhaust and Air filter to improve airflow or a chip or all three?
I don't want to do anything that could cause engine problems through over tuning. Also does the chip come pre programmed or do I need to experiment with settings which I'd rather not do.
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Anonymous
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Sort out your breathing first.
New exhasut (Not just a back box) and a decent filter in there will open up the cars lungs a bit and then allow you to remap the ECU to take advantage of the work you have done.
New exhasut (Not just a back box) and a decent filter in there will open up the cars lungs a bit and then allow you to remap the ECU to take advantage of the work you have done.
RCZ-Performance
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If you do the air filter and a complete exhaust system you will see results in performance and sound even without a remap or tuning box implemented. However doing a remap or a tuning box will take more advantage of the changes you have done. Some people go for everything to see the best results immediately. Others like to do changes one by one and see the changes (of course this means access to a dyno to see the results).
In regards to the Racechip tuning boxes we sell they come preset for a standard setup of the car, but can be adjusted to your liking and setup of the car.
Either way or whatever you are looking for we have what you need (except for customer remapping but we can suggest a great place).
In regards to the Racechip tuning boxes we sell they come preset for a standard setup of the car, but can be adjusted to your liking and setup of the car.
Either way or whatever you are looking for we have what you need (except for customer remapping but we can suggest a great place).
stagger321
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Hi there,RCZ-Performance said:
Without wishing to be too nosy here, what is the setup of this 250bhp+ car (exhaust/filter/chip etc).
Clearly you can only get a stated 28bhp extra from a superchip mod on a 200BHP car, and air intake and exhaust mods only give you so much.
So are you using a Racechip setup for this or have you had a custom remap?
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Anonymous
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Modding is never really a simple "plug in play" solution and the variances between engines can be so wildly different those figures you see on manufacturers websites should always be taken with a pinch of salt.
With my first RCZ I gained about 8bhp from having a service and fitting a backbox. I am still - and will always tell people - that back boxes and panel filters will not yield much in the way of power increases but in that case my car proved to be the exception rather than the rule when it dyno'd over 163bhp (it was a 156 GT)
The 200THP engine is very similar to the DS3-R and the JCW mini engine and they will regularly post over 250bhp with the correct modifications.
I think that RCZ-P has done pretty much everything that is possible, including new intercoolers etc.
Have a peek at this to see where the journey began.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2520&p=24022#p24022
With my first RCZ I gained about 8bhp from having a service and fitting a backbox. I am still - and will always tell people - that back boxes and panel filters will not yield much in the way of power increases but in that case my car proved to be the exception rather than the rule when it dyno'd over 163bhp (it was a 156 GT)
The 200THP engine is very similar to the DS3-R and the JCW mini engine and they will regularly post over 250bhp with the correct modifications.
I think that RCZ-P has done pretty much everything that is possible, including new intercoolers etc.
Have a peek at this to see where the journey began.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2520&p=24022#p24022
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And here is a list of steves mods to date.. I think that its up to date.
Currently Steven has done the following modifications to his RCZ:
ATS Racelight Wheels (8.5x19)
Black Diamond Rear Brake Discs and Pads (cross-drilled discs)
Forge Motorsport Blow-Off Valve (BoV)
Forge Motorsport Hard Pipe
French Connection Eyebrows
Forge Motorsport Inter-Cooler
Forge Motorsport Silicone Turbo Hoses
H&R Spacers and Bolts
K&N panel filter
KW v2 Suspension (lowered 5cm front and 4.5cm rear)
Lighting (LED DRL's, LED Brake and Registration bulbs, HID Fog Light conversion, upgraded DS1 and H1 bulbs)
Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres (235/40/19)
RCZ 'R' Gear Shift Knob
Rüffer Performance Front Spoilers, Side Skirts, Rear Valance, and Rear Wing for Rear Spoiler
Rüffer Performance RS II Exhaust with Front Silencer and Crossover Pipe
Smoked Side Marker Lamps
SpiVision on front and rear lamp assemblies
Superchips Remap (252bhp and 349nm of torque)
Totally Dynamic full body wrap
Ultra Racing Front and Middle Lower Braces
WP Pro Front Brake System (360mm x 30mm cross-drilled 2-piece discs with 6-pot calipers)
Zunsport Front Black Grille
(I've highlighted the main engine mods)
Currently Steven has done the following modifications to his RCZ:
ATS Racelight Wheels (8.5x19)
Black Diamond Rear Brake Discs and Pads (cross-drilled discs)
Forge Motorsport Blow-Off Valve (BoV)
Forge Motorsport Hard Pipe
French Connection Eyebrows
Forge Motorsport Inter-Cooler
Forge Motorsport Silicone Turbo Hoses
H&R Spacers and Bolts
K&N panel filter
KW v2 Suspension (lowered 5cm front and 4.5cm rear)
Lighting (LED DRL's, LED Brake and Registration bulbs, HID Fog Light conversion, upgraded DS1 and H1 bulbs)
Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres (235/40/19)
RCZ 'R' Gear Shift Knob
Rüffer Performance Front Spoilers, Side Skirts, Rear Valance, and Rear Wing for Rear Spoiler
Rüffer Performance RS II Exhaust with Front Silencer and Crossover Pipe
Smoked Side Marker Lamps
SpiVision on front and rear lamp assemblies
Superchips Remap (252bhp and 349nm of torque)
Totally Dynamic full body wrap
Ultra Racing Front and Middle Lower Braces
WP Pro Front Brake System (360mm x 30mm cross-drilled 2-piece discs with 6-pot calipers)
Zunsport Front Black Grille
(I've highlighted the main engine mods)
RCZ-Performance
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Yes that is up to date ^^^ thanks Figo :thumbup:
The remap we have on our car is pretty aggressive as in at the limits of what we have done so far to it, it's not the remap result shown on our site, that is an RCZ with minimal modifications. We have a couple more mods to be done in the near future to see if 260bhp can be achieved, that in our mind is the max for the stock engine. After that it is a reworked engine, bigger turbo etc., and it wouldn't be the first time I have done something like that, but not ready to do that yet.
The remap we have on our car is pretty aggressive as in at the limits of what we have done so far to it, it's not the remap result shown on our site, that is an RCZ with minimal modifications. We have a couple more mods to be done in the near future to see if 260bhp can be achieved, that in our mind is the max for the stock engine. After that it is a reworked engine, bigger turbo etc., and it wouldn't be the first time I have done something like that, but not ready to do that yet.
stagger321
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Thanks for that Figo.Figo said:
So question to Steve, as I don't exactly know how the Superchip tuning works per se.
In other words, some of those perf mods above will give more significant perf gains than others. So for example I can see that the exhaust mod and maybe the intercooler change give maybe the biggest gains, vs say a BOV which will have minimal/zero perf gains (but yeah make it sound like - whoosh
)Does the Superchip remap work give a different result if you install it after fitting all the other stuff vs you doing it before fitting the other aftermarket bits'n'bobs.
So for the budget conscious of us, is it optimum to buy the remap last if you know you are likely to get some of the other stiff fitted at some point, or doesn't it matter if you do it first, last, or in the middle.
Also, from the bold stuff Figo has highlighted - what is your best guess on perf gains for each? Just so me and maybe others here can prioritize budgets.
Ta.
Abzynthe
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There are various stages to remaps. Of course you wont be getting the performance parts full potential if you remap before installing them as these parts show different readings to OEM parts so the ecu may hold back a little.
An example is on Wheeler Dealers they installed a K&N filter and a big bore exhaust to an imprezza and the car actually lost power until it was remapped, then it gained a fair bit over the standard power.
An example is on Wheeler Dealers they installed a K&N filter and a big bore exhaust to an imprezza and the car actually lost power until it was remapped, then it gained a fair bit over the standard power.
RCZ-Performance
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As Abzynthe said, just bolting on performance items does not necessarily mean you get more power, but a remap makes them work as designed. Adding a filter and a back box exhaust does not need a remap to be honest but even that little change will help. A BoV will not provide any performance gains. If you want to know what each item does you will need to install each one and do a remap after doing so. Most people do not do this as that is time consuming and dyno runs and remapping is not cheap. Most of the items work together and that is what we have done with an upgraded inter-cooler and pipe routing on the induction side, and then opening-up the exhaust, so we do not have power gains per-item. Even without doing any modifications, a remap can give gains and a better curve on the power compared to a stock setup.stagger321 said:Thanks for that Figo.Figo said:
So question to Steve, as I don't exactly know how the Superchip tuning works per se.
In other words, some of those perf mods above will give more significant perf gains than others. So for example I can see that the exhaust mod and maybe the intercooler change give maybe the biggest gains, vs say a BOV which will have minimal/zero perf gains (but yeah make it sound like - whoosh
Does the Superchip remap work give a different result if you install it after fitting all the other stuff vs you doing it before fitting the other aftermarket bits'n'bobs.
So for the budget conscious of us, is it optimum to buy the remap last if you know you are likely to get some of the other stiff fitted at some point, or doesn't it matter if you do it first, last, or in the middle.
Also, from the bold stuff Figo has highlighted - what is your best guess on perf gains for each? Just so me and maybe others here can prioritize budgets.
Ta.
For the budget conscious you can start of with bolting on stuff but you might get results that works against the result you are looking for, like the imprezza did. Doing the filter and back box as mentioned above will not have this result to your car, so that is a good start. Opening-up the rest of the exhaust can result in too much flow and not enough back pressure which can result if engine issues and problems.
Having more power should be done right to minimise the possibility of having engine issues, of course there is no guarantee that modifications to your car will not do that any ways, but a poor approach could cause a premature failure. You will get the results you are looking for if you buy and pay for the right stuff. Find a good remapper like Superchips.
Hope this helps and again we can help you achieve what you want with your RCZ.
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I'm also considering a remap on my thp156.
Would it be correct to say that, central to any remap for a turbo engine is the increase in boost pressure?
If so, would we not be increasing the heat buildup in the car by doing so?
So in a so-called "stage 1" remap, is this something that will be detrimental to the car?
I'm asking because I come from a tropical country and the ambient temps can be in the high 30s with high humidity.
Would it be correct to say that, central to any remap for a turbo engine is the increase in boost pressure?
If so, would we not be increasing the heat buildup in the car by doing so?
So in a so-called "stage 1" remap, is this something that will be detrimental to the car?
I'm asking because I come from a tropical country and the ambient temps can be in the high 30s with high humidity.
RCZ-Performance
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chillveers15 said:
Yes a remap will increase boost. Heat build-up will not necessarily increase from just getting a remap, but the reason for getting a remap in most cases is to get more power, and the reason to have more power is to drive it differently, and this is when more heat build-up could occur and more strain on engine parts. Ultimately with or without a remap your driving will depict heat build-up and/or engine issues. Of course normal driving can do the same if there is an issue with the engine already. As you are in a tropical country, you are at more of a risk when it comes to heat, and so eliminating heat build-up is more important to you. We know we have been a bit vague in areas but we believe you will get it
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RCZ-Performance said:chillveers15 said:
Yes a remap will increase boost. Heat build-up will not necessarily increase from just getting a remap, but the reason for getting a remap in most cases is to get more power, and the reason to have more power is to drive it differently, and this is when more heat build-up could occur and more strain on engine parts. Ultimately with or without a remap your driving will depict heat build-up and/or engine issues. Of course normal driving can do the same if there is an issue with the engine already. As you are in a tropical country, you are at more of a risk when it comes to heat, and so eliminating heat build-up is more important to you. We know we have been a bit vague in areas but we believe you will get it
Aye, i've gone the route before. Took a stock car, changed from a SMIC to FMIC, popped in a boost controller, later an ECU, then larger radiator, then larger turbo, etc... Car held up ok with the "supporting mods" but i'm worried that a Stage 1 (without "supporting mods") might add even more heat.
The temptation is always to cane the car harder after a remap too, no?
So i was wondering if anyone had heat issues after a "stage 1" remap.