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Jack Point Failure

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Anonymous

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Hello
Just wondering if anyone has had the same issues that I encountered. I jacked up my RCZ using a generic Peugeot Jack. I was told by the dealer that it was suitable. The vehicle collapsed onto the Jack leaving the jacking points completely bent.
 
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Anonymous

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Many Thanks. Peugeot told me this has not happened before.
 
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Anonymous

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Define Peugeot - the garage or Peugeot Head Office?!


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Anonymous

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Peugeot head office have paid for the damage but also stated this is not a known issue.
 
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Anonymous

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Just goes to show how they have lost interest in us and this forum. They knew of my incident due to me posting the facts on here. They contacted my dealer and told them to contact me and sort it out.

How things change :thumbdown:
 
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Anonymous

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Peugoet seem to have said 'it's not a known issue' a good few times. If you are still in contact with them then please do point them in the direction of a few threads on here about this issue. It's about time they recognised it as a fault.
 
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To be fair to Peugeot and they have always done right by me, "Peugeot" is a group of individuals. So maybe possibly each time this subject has been brought to their attention a different individual has dealt with it. However this would indicate systematic failure in their procedures for this theory to hold water, so it doesn't let them off the hook entirely.
 
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Things are only classed as a "known issue" if the top brass say so.

Look at the timing issues... probably at least 1/4 of all cars with this engine be it BMW / Mini / Citreon or Pug will suffer from it.. yet only BMW USA acknowledge it as "a known issue"

Its not whether or not they "know" its more if they have permission to accept that it is an official issue.
 
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Figo said:
Things are only classed as a "known issue" if the top brass say so.

Look at the timing issues... probably at least 1/4 of all cars with this engine be it BMW / Mini / Citreon or Pug will suffer from it.. yet only BMW USA acknowledge it as "a known issue"

Its not whether or not they "know" its more if they have permission to accept that it is an official issue.

Point taken and well made. I guess I live a rather simplistic life and want to believe what people tell me :crazy:
 
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Anonymous

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I have reported the issue to VOSA and they are carrying out structural tests on the actually jacking points. My collapsed like a 'French Bread Roll' so hopefully this should be raised as a safety issue.
 
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robinsstevenj said:
I have reported the issue to VOSA and they are carrying out structural tests on the actually jacking points. My collapsed like a 'French Bread Roll' so hopefully this should be raised as a safety issue.

Good thinking! :thumbup:

Be interested to see if anything materialises from this.
 
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Anonymous

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Just had a reply lol. Here is what they have said:

The Vehicle & Operator Services Agency (VOSA) and the manufacturer have now
completed the investigation into the above. I am therefore able to inform you of the
outcome.
Our acknowledgement letter of 17 March 2014 explained that the purpose any
investigation carried out within the terms of the Code of Practice on Vehicle Safety
Defects (the Code), which has the support of the General Product Safety
Regulations 2005 (as amended), is to establish if the defect is a failure due to design
and/or construction, which is likely to affect the safe operation of the product without
prior warning to the user and may pose a significant risk to the driver, occupants and
others. This defect will be common to a number of products that have been sold for
use in the United Kingdom
The manufacturer was unable to confirm the cause of the collapsed sills but
suggests the concern could have occurred because a 308 jack was used, which is
different from the RCZ jack. They have received no similar reports from the UK
market. The jack is not sold with the vehicle when new. The user s handbook of RCZ
model clearly indicates: never go underneath a vehicle raised using a jack . In
addition, the labels on the jack used by the customer also clearly indicate not to go
underneath the car. The sills have been deformed in a progressive way, and cannot
cause a sudden fall to the ground. The jack is still supporting the vehicle. Therefore,
the manufacturer does not consider this case as a safety defect as defined within the
terms of the Code. As a result of the VSB has closed this file.
The official response from the manufacturer concludes there is insufficient evidence
of a wider problem to warrant an action within the terms of the Code.
Additionally, a search of VOSA s defects and recalls databases has revealed no
similar reports. As such, on this occasion, no further action will be taken
 

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Thats a load of crap. But if thats the case, its still Peugeots fault for giving you a 308 jack.
 
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Anonymous

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What does 'not go under the car mean?' Don't use the jack under the car - where does it go then?
 
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So with that statement. would it not be sensible for all forum members who have had this problem to send any details and correspondence from their dealers and Peugeot to Vosa along with the reference number from robins case, hoping to get the case re opened and so prove that peugeot have all the information on this problem, the solution here with Ron's patented piece and that they have deceived the authorities!

Diggerd :eusa-think:
 

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dand87 said:
What does 'not go under the car mean?' Don't use the jack under the car - where does it go then?

I read it to mean that you shouldn't go under the car while it is jacked up.
This way you won't get hurt when the hack point fails.
To be fair, that is what these safety rules are for.
Even though material damage was caused, no people were hurt.
 
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Anonymous

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I still think we should all fill in the form online to VOSA, so they are made aware of the issue. The fact that they have said this is a one off is rubbish. I reported it to VOSA simply because I would not want people being injured by this. Sooner or later someone will jack up the vehicle and will be seriously injured.
 
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