HELP

[Bailey 200]

Hi there I’m new to the forum but I’m at my Witts end with my 2014 200bhp rcz . Eml comes on then next day start the car and it goes off this has been going on for the last 10 months the car wants for nothing is serviced regularly diagnosed with fault code P0008 exhaust camshaft position B bank 1 slow response garage is telling me this is to do with the timing chain any thoughts? No rattling no smoke drives great even with the eml light on .PLEASE HELP

 

[Charlie1875]

Have you changed the cam position sensor? They are about £25-£30 for a bosch one, try that first, but as it’s 9 years old, if the chain hasn’t been done it will need it doing. I replaced the chain on one last month because it had a rattle on start up for a second, no eml were on and it ran ok. Hope that helps

 

[Bailey 200]

Thanks Charlie sorry for late reply phone broke Saturday afternoon only just got it back car is in garage as we speak what I don’t understand is I have no rattle on start up no smoke etc so nothing is pointing towards the chain.thanks for your help.just out of interest what’s the cost of replacing the chain?

 

[Pedro]

Chain tensioner is knackered?

 

[Bailey 200]

Hi Pedro thanks for your reply the garage where my car was today couldn’t pick up a fault because eml wasn’t on but they did put me in touch with a pug specialist who I spoke to and he said it could be that aswell booked in for 5th august so fingers crossed

 

[Marmite]

Also check the Vanos sensor I kept getting the ecu light on , I had this problem with it moving around in its casing an it shouldn’t . But no doubt it will need a timing kit sooner or later it as Pedro said the cam chain tension get week

 

[Bailey 200]

Hi marmite would that just be the tensioner or a whole new timing chain kit needed? The car has only done 56k .

 

[Bailey 200]

If I have to replace the whole timing chain do you know approximately the cost of this as you’ve probably guessed I know nothing about cars !!!

 

[Charlie1875]

Probably going to cost £700-£850 all in, chain kits have increased in price, last one I did took me about 6 hours, so quite labour intensive, regardless of mileage as these cars are 9 or 10 years old now it will need a new chain kit

 

[Bailey 200]

Thanks Charlie beginning to wish I hadn’t brought this car now for the 2 years I’ve owned it it’s costing me a fortune might just sell it with the issues it has for a low price and just get it gone it’s just a money pit

 

[Charlie1875]

Yes mate they can be an absolute money pit if your no good with the spanners.
Maybe interested in it if you need to get rid.
If you are send my a pm, cheers Charlie

 

[Bailey 200]

Hi Charlie it’s booked in with a pug specialist for 5th august I’ll see what he says and let you know mate

 

[Charlie1875]

Just checked your fault code p0008, the garage is correct, that code relates to the correlation between the camshaft and the crankshaft timing. 9 times out of 10 it means the timing chain has stretched, guides have worn or tensioner, or all of the above.
New timing chain kit is probably needed.
Hope that helps

 

[Bailey 200]

Hi there fault code is pooob not pooo8 I’ve written in wrong in my previous post

 

[Marmite]

Hi marmite would that just be the tensioner or a whole new timing chain kit needed? The car has only done 56k .

You can try a tensioner but it’s more likely to be the chain as well I also have a near enough new one as not many weeks after fitting it I had the whole lot done . Also the vanos sensor’ s do not throw up a fault code as they are only on a 12 v supply a not linked to the ecu ie. They don’t leave a code , the only code it chucks up is cam sensor I know this the hard way as I done the cam sensors first

 

[Marmite]

Have you changed the cam position sensor? They are about £25-£30 for a bosch one, try that first, but as it’s 9 years old, if the chain hasn’t been done it will need it doing. I replaced the chain on one last month because it had a rattle on start up for a second, no eml were on and it ran ok. Hope that helps

Not another chain on the R already?

 

[Bailey 200]

Thanks marmite

 

[Charlie1875]

Not another chain on the R already?

No mate, the R is running well, I had a 156 gt that had had the updated tensioner but obviously that then failed also

 

[Marmite]

Good

 

[lfe]

No mate, the R is running well, I had a 156 gt that had had the updated tensioner but obviously that then failed also

I also had the updated tensioner and I replaced it with a new one. The rattling when it was cold disappeared.

Over time it loses strength.