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Would appreciate if someone could answer a couple of questions,

1. If I had to change the whole headlight on my RCZ to opt for the xenon ones, is the connection the same as the ones I currently have (normal ones) ????
2. Would any one know the cost of the whole headlight ?? i know its not cheap :)

Thanks all
 
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there was some on ebay. you will also want the dicectional motors which probably have to have wired into ciruits/computer.
 
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There was an earlier thread on this, and apparantly it's not an easy fix, apparantly the light will fit in easily enough but the cars wireing loom and electrics are a bit different if you have the standard lights, not sure if this accurate but it certainly sounds about right.

Easier and cheaper option would be to fit a good HID lighting kit and then replace side or exsisting bulbs to match. my son did this on a previous car of his, the results were awsome.I think the kit he used was fitted for around £130, he found a chap online that supplied and fitted the kit at home. Some Halfords branch's supply and fit HID kits. You can get them on Ebay and fit yourself, it's not difficult, but for £130 fitted with a gaurantee it's pointless fitting them yourself.

In fact once my RCZ is delivered i may very well look into this myself, it will be a dam sight cheaper and less hassle than replacing the whole lighting unit.
Also because i have seen the end results of a good HID kit, i just cannot see the point in paying £620 for the Peugot optional extra, when the £130 HID kit looks the same when the lights are on. :clap:
 
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Unfortunately. Aftermarket HID kits are illegal. They may produce the same effect as Xenon but lack safety features such as self leveling technology to stop blinding other road users, the correct housing and other factors.

Might seem a bit of a killjoy from the authorities as I very much agree that the increased vision is brilliant (try driving an MG on stock! :lol:) . But its not as safe to other road users as either Xenon or standard lights and until a kit manages to solve this... And get the certification they will not be legal.
 
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Is this cetain ? because i have put my son's car through 2 mot's at diifferent garages and both did the normal mot check for head lamp alignent without any problems what so ever ?
 
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jactac said:
Is this cetain ? because i have put my son's car through 2 mot's at diifferent garages and both did the normal mot check for head lamp alignent without any problems what so ever ?


What Figo said is correct
 
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Ok bit of an update here, i have Googled this and read up on many sites and it looks as though Figo is correct, it is all down to the head light unit being "E" marked. this statement is from the dept of transport.
"In the Department’s view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID “burner” (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern".
Department for Transport (2006)..

As for the MOT as long as the beam is within alignment then the car will pass, the problem is, that the MOT does NOT test for glare, it is only tested for alignment, and if the majority of beam is within the allowed alignment then the car will pass but there could still be a problem with oncoming glare.

So Jonvella, you better start saving your pennies up for the real thing, me too i think :eusa-think:
 
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Dear all your help and guidance is greatly appreciated, that is why this forum is great and so popular.

I was thinking of going for the original stuff from the first second (since I did the mistake of not ordering them in the first place) my only big question was if they would lit up just by changing them, now, knowing I would also have to change some wires or cables is making me go 4steps back and thinking of keeping the original ones I have with my car, unfortunately :(

I don't give up so easily, if I manage to find someone who can do me the real thing I will go for it even if it works out quite expensive.

Regards to all from Malta
 
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I know with my old MG I got "brighter than white" bulbs. These were E-Marked, Direct replacements and 100% illegal. However with a car like the RCZ I suspect that the standard lights are as good as they get.
 
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ive used hid kits on motor bikes my bmw adventure has all the lights converted to hid thats 2 spots, main and dip beams the spots and the dip beam are on constantly and ive never had motorists flash to say they are being dazzled, the difference they make is nothing short of amazing the other point is they are so easy to fit ie. 30mins plug and play,the biggest job is where to put the ballast boxes, there is a potential problem with modern canbus wiring systems that when fitting the hid's they draw a lot less current so there could be a problem were the system thinks that a bulb has blown thus putting a light fail on the dash
 
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If you align them correctly you may not disturb other drivers, but when someone fitting HID lights has these lights way too high, it's too disturbing, even if your mirror filters the light.
 
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