Curate's egg

[stewartwillsher]

The range is getting better, so I could reach my daughter's place. :thumbup:
BUT 20+ hours to recharge to come home using her normal house mains; c'mon, you cannot be serious! :shock:
OK, maybe only two thirds top up needed.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/peugeot/2 ... mile-range

 

[Plecodoras]

The range is getting better, so I could reach my daughter's place. :thumbup:
BUT 20+ hours to recharge to come home using her normal house mains; c'mon, you cannot be serious! :shock:
OK, maybe only two thirds top up needed.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/peugeot/2 ... mile-range

Yes Stewie but that's on a 3 pin plug outlet, which is akin to trickle charging. much faster on the dedicated charging point which is available with the car. Plus if you are visiting your girl, then chances are you will be staying overnight and those figures are from flat / empty to full. remember if you're just topping up, which is how you should get into the mode of thinking with an EV. it will be considerably less.
Inconvenient but the onus is to connect at almost every opportunity to top up, and not charge from empty to full when you run out.

 

[stewartwillsher]

You say - "akin to trickle charging".
I say COBBLERS, 'cos most trickle chargers I have used would take days to charge up an EV size battery!
Peugeot say - "It’ll take 20+ hours to recharge on a household three-pin plug, while using a dedicated home charging point will top the batteries up in approximately eight hours. Peugeot says an 80 per cent recharge is possible in 30 minutes using a roadside 100kW rapid charger."
Anyways, when an EV can swap low batteries for fully charged in a service station in similar time to filling a tank, and you can pay for it at the counter, then, and only then will an EV match the convenience and range of an ICE or hybrid.
I am drawn to the hybrid approach, but they are expensive still.
My next motor is very likely to be diesel with as low emissions as is available.
By the time EVs can do a round trip of 500kms with a short duration charge, like in an airport car park, I shall be pushing up the daisies.

 

[Plecodoras]

You miss the analogy.

I said a 3 pin plug charger is like trickle charging compared to a dedicated charging system like I have, which is 7kw per hour. Which in theory would charge a 50kw battery in 8 or so hours.
I know the difference with chargers as I have used them all, from 3 pin to 54kw super chargers.

But your last statement might not be far from the truth. Sadly, maybe me also.

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[DKZ5745]

Does anyone know about battery life on current EV’s. (Pardon the pun) :lol:

I read an article about an early EV - might have been the Leaf, can’t remember, but it said that the batteries were given an expected lifetime of @ 5 years with a replacement cost of @ £10 k :shock:

After reading that, I decided that until that kind of thing changed a lot there would be no way I would be going down that route, despite having an EV charging point fitted in my Garage.

 

[Plecodoras]

The batteries in my leaf were warrantied for 8 years. Cost of replacement was quoted around £4-5k at current time 2 years ago. Even though they refurbish the battery units and then sell them for off grid storage.
Someone in a sunny climate could easily be utility free, living totally of grid.

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[stewartwillsher]

Someone in a sunny climate could easily be utility free, living totally of grid.

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New can of worms:
It is entirely possible to power many things using solar panels here, and we do.
The 5008 sits unused for weeks at a time and is topped up with a small panel and charge controller, which compensates for the slow drain of the alarm and whatever other electronickery is alive when switched off.
A couple of outhouses have panels and will, with a conventional vehicle battery, power a light or two.
But our feasibility study before committing to buy our land quickly concluded that mains leccy was essential, primarily for the convenience of modern appliances such as an oven, washing machine and dishwasher; pump for our bore hole and house water supply also use a few KWatts as needed.
The charging of an EV battery with a "special" point would also fit in the same category.
I am sure if I used a "pedelec" bike, I could charge it using solar to get into town and back daily, but not with the wife and shopping on the return trip.
Neighbours, a kilometre down the road, are "off grid", and spent many thousands on the panels and wizardry that kicks in the diesel generator when needed, and they still have to be aware of what modern appliances can be used simultaneously.
So - "Someone in a sunny climate could easily be utility free, living totally of grid.".
Sorry, but NO!