Brembo Big Brake Kit ?

[Anonymous]

I've been looking about for a brake upgrade and seen that the Tarox appears to be all that is available for the 302mm brakes which I am not really that impressed with, there was one called CEIKA but didn't think they looked that great.
I also came across this on Mad4brakes (front and rear kit)
http://www.mad4brakes.com/en/23808-rcz- ... ail-163-cv
They said a 2-4 week wait but couldn't find out much more from our chat. Anyone know anything else available or if that seems legit ?

 

[Anonymous]

You could probably buy the alcin 380mm R kit for less, try godspeedbrakes but will try to get a better answer after the pub quiz

 

[RCZ-R]

You could probably buy the alcin 380mm R kit for less, try godspeedbrakes but will try to get a better answer after the pub quiz

It doesn't stop there. He needs to uprate the master brake cylinder and recalibrate the whole system including ESP and ABS. Now that is a biggie.

 

[Anonymous]

You could probably buy the alcin 380mm R kit for less, try godspeedbrakes but will try to get a better answer after the pub quiz

It doesn't stop there. He needs to uprate the master brake cylinder and recalibrate the whole system including ESP and ABS. Now that is a biggie.

Yes and the brake bias if having front/rear done, but that looks to be stupid money, over 7k euro's for the front/rear which is total overkill unless the car is going to be tracked all the time.

 

[Anonymous]

I have Brembos on the VXR, they're monstrously efficient and look the business...buuuut...they squeak like mad and are VERY expensive to replace parts for, particularly on the VXR because of a unique floating bell design. Recommended replacement pads are in excess of £270 (unfitted) and replacement disks are £1700.

 

[Anonymous]

You're right it is a lot of money and I was looking for a straight replacement upgrade, I am looking to do a few things to the car and it's booked into the body shop next week for some mods and the whole front end re sprayed as I feel the bonnet is looking a little flat, I also have the interior to re trim.
The wheels I have are 20inch and do expose the inside quite a bit, the Tarox which is 340mm is about £2500 for a front upgrade only and I am not that impressed with it, the Brembo system looks great but I'll have to leave the brakes till later while I do more digging and questioning to see what all my options are.

I'm looking to make it a little project as the car is usually garaged through the harsher weather but just a matter of one thing at a time but looking to get a couple of things done before it gets locked away for the winter.

 

[tianorth]

I know you have stated Brembo, but have you had a look at the site sponser RCZ-Performance as his rcz has been updated in several areas.

http://www.RCZperformance.com

He might know where to get what your looking for as well.

 

[Anonymous]

I know you have stated Brembo, but have you had a look at the site sponser RCZ-Performance as his rcz has been updated in several areas.

Yeah I think he's running the AP Racing kit on the front but that is an upgrade for the 340mm RCZ set up and mine is the 302mm so I don't think that would work. The Brembo is most likely a replacement for the 340mm also as it covers the 2.0 HDI as well, guess it comes down to the work and cost involved in modifying the system to suit that but I would guess it may be more trouble than it's worth and Tarox looks like the only one I've seen that does the 302mm disc set up.

 

[tianorth]

Which version of RCZ do you have?

The only difference with the size of brakes (I think) is the larger (340mm) will only fit 19" wheels, other than that it's the same brake setup otherwise, (OK in that I mean different size discs and pads and callipers), you could have a 302mm discs on a 19" wheel as well.
The bigger dia discs were fitted to I think the diesels (163 bhp) and the 200 BHP with 19" wheels (I think called the sports pack).

Someone let me know if I'm wrong.

 

[DKZ5745]

Don't know. Mine is a 2013 GT200 which I bought second hand. It came with 19"s and 340mm already fitted, so I don't know if that's all standard or part of a pack. (It also had lots of packs fitted, vision, black, etc)

 

[RCZ-Performance]

With a lot of experience with locating and trying to develop upgrade kits for the RCZ, it must be known that yes there are two brake systems on the RCZ and they are not interchangeable (fronts only, rears are all the same on the RCZ and RCZ 'R'):

Standard = 302mm
Sport = 340mm
R = 380mm

Sport brakes came standard on some RCZ's but were an option on others. So you could find a THP156 with Sport brakes, but this didn't happen often. If you got Sport brakes with your RCZ, Peugeot required that you also get 19" wheels, but to be honest you can fit an 18" wheel as well.

The mounting of the Standard caliper is not the same as the Sport caliper due to the disc diameter difference and you cannot bolt on Sport brakes on the Standard setup without new brackets, which you get with upgrade kits.

The Tarox system that we sell is designed to be used for Standard brake upgrades:

http://shop.rczperformance.com/product.sc?productId=162&categoryId=99

We do offer the Brembo although we are in the middle of pricing it correctly again for this year, but this is designed around upgrading a Sport brake system.

We see no real reason to upgrade the rear brakes and this also brings in another thing to consider and that is brake balance. Too large a disc on either front or rear will require brake balancing and this is not so straight-forward with the RCZ. 365mm is the maximum for the front without having to balance it with the rear. The next step up is to 380 but then yes balance is required, as in the 'R', unless you do increase the size of the rear discs.

Unfortunately with the RCZ not being produced for much longer and the numbers of them not being astronomically high, brake manufacturers are not really interested in developing systems for them especially if you have the Sport brakes already.

We had an experimental system on ours but eventually removed them as we were not happy with the design, quality, and performance. When we went back to the Sport brakes we were very happy with the performance, yes the Sport brakes are very very good.

At the end of the day these are your brakes and is not something you should go cheap on if you are looking at upgrading them is size.

Contact us if you have any other questions regarding brakes.

 

[Anonymous]

My car is the Sport which I intentionally bought over the GT as I am doing modifications to it and didn't see the point in buying a GT to swap the 19in wheels for 20in and removing the leather interior only to re do it the way I want.

With regards to the brakes, the Tarox system for me seems a little too expensive to go to just 340mm, if it was a 365mm upgrade it might help as the wheels I have fitted open up behind the wheel quite a bit so it is more an aesthetic thing for me but £2500 to go to 340mm doesn't really swing me.

 

[RCZ-Performance]

My car is the Sport which I intentionally bought over the GT as I am doing modifications to it and didn't see the point in buying a GT to swap the 19in wheels for 20in and removing the leather interior only to re do it the way I want.

With regards to the brakes, the Tarox system for me seems a little too expensive to go to just 340mm, if it was a 365mm upgrade it might help as the wheels I have fitted open up behind the wheel quite a bit so it is more an aesthetic thing for me but £2500 to go to 340mm doesn't really swing me.

So ultimately you want larger brakes because of exposure to them due to the wheel choice, and not for performance gains. This however is not possible without a large investment into upgraded brakes as mentioned. One option you could do is locate a breaking RCZ that has the Sport brakes and remove the necessary items to at least get to 340mm. The Brembo brake system we offer goes up to 365mm but these are for Sport upgrades.

Standard brakes behind 20" wheels do look rather small, where as the Sports look much better.

What we do like to hear is that you have a project going and cannot wait to see the results. Hope you are following us on our Facebook page as that is where we can show others your pride and joy.

Looking forward to seeing the results.

 

[Anonymous]

So ultimately you want larger brakes because of exposure to them due to the wheel choice, and not for performance gains

Exactly, as I am not doing any engine mods yet so there would be no reason to have them fitted for better performance on the standard set up, as the factory set up does perfectly fine but at least they would be ready for a later date if that work does begin as it's better to have that stopping power in place first.

A 340mm set up may be my only realistic choice.

 

[RCZ-Performance]

So ultimately you want larger brakes because of exposure to them due to the wheel choice, and not for performance gains

Exactly, as I am not doing any engine mods yet so there would be no reason to have them fitted for better performance on the standard set up, as the factory set up does perfectly fine but at least they would be ready for a later date if that work does begin as it's better to have that stopping power in place first.

A 340mm set up may be my only realistic choice.

I would at least go to the 340mm size whether it be installation of a Sport system or using the Tarox upgrade. If we come across anything else we shall post it in out Facebook page first.

 

[Anonymous]

If we come across anything else we shall post it in out Facebook page first.

That's great I'll keep checking, cheers.The car is currently in the body shop getting a couple of mods done to it and a full front end respray as I feel the bonnet is a little flat.
I will be off on holiday end of June also so I probably won't do anything till I get back and that may either be the interior or the Ruffer system you're doing. I can hold off a bit on the brakes just in case something else comes up, as I don't fancy jumping in on the Tarox system too soon when I have a few other things I could get on with.