black boxes

[Abzynthe]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ne ... ox-3563221

I think this wont make a lot of people happy lol.

Maybe eventually there wont be any speed cameras and you just get a ticket through the post O.O

 

[Anonymous]

Total Nanny state.... some repects its a good idea.. most respects thought its stupid.. under 21 I say go for it though.. aim for those most involved in accidents.. but adults?

 

[hanswuk]

The state hasn't yet said it will use the information although it's probably only a matter of time. It seems it's the insurance companies we've first got to worry about.

 

[Anonymous]

Wonder if records of where the individual has exceeded the speed limit will/could be used to prosecute...?

 

[Anonymous]

I agree that under 21's, have less than 3 years driving experience or have been previously banned from driving in the last 3 years should have the black box if it makes them insurable without costing a fortune.

However I hate the thought of such a device giving information to either my insurance company, the government or even the possibility of 3rd parties. I would opt out of the ones that monitor speed, braking habits etc I would actually want to have the option of having some fun in my car without fearing the increases in insurance costs.

Thankfully The Mirror has not got the facts right, what the EU are demanding to be fitted to new cars in 2015 is called eCall that basically makes it easier for emergency services to find your vehicle in the event of a crash and hate to say this but those who have a RCZ with the optional sat nav already have a feature similar to this.

 

[Anonymous]

I think to obtain any information from the box the police would have to obtain a search warrant as a car would be classified as premises in most cases.
My guess is that they would only bother in serious accidents if the driver was unwilling to give them access.
So in those cases if it helps convict a driver that has caused death or serious injury it is a good idea.
The only thing I am against is (if the posts before are true) this is being lead by Insurance Companies who are the devils spawn. (something I know from experience - especially AXA - who I would advise anyone not to use in case they need to make a claim - my claim for over £100K was refused - yet another Insurance company paid out - thanks be to god)

 

[Anonymous]

The whole idea is ridiculous. They'd have to be constantly recall rated to ensure that they were working and I cannot possibly see how they could be used for prosecution purposes.

By all means, if you want to use them to lower insurance purposes then go for it but don't penalise drivers for driving...again! I also agree that they could be fitted to cars of those returning from bans etc. That's actually a good idea! :thumbup:

However, I think this whole story is fantasy.

 

[Anonymous]

My son (18) passed his driving test earlier this year so the better half gave him her daily driver a 1,200cc Punto Grande on a 56 plate

Best quote was from a company called "Drive Like a Girl" (I kid you not!!) for a car worth maybe £1300 was £2,300 with a Black Box fitted and after 3 months he got a £300 discount

The T jet Bravo I had at the time had a flat one morning so as he was away and I was insured for it I took it to Derby for a work meeting and then onto Merseyside again with work
I can say that having a black box not only sucks every last bit of joy out of driving I think you spend too much time concentrating on the speedo at least that's how I felt

The crazy thing is after driving that for 4-5 months he bought a 64 plate Corsa white limited edition which has the VXR body kit on it and screams boy racer price to insure £1300 and no black box

 

[Anonymous]

I'm on my sons insurance and i would say i tend to drive it a bit different to him, how can the box differentiate between different drivers?
The data is stored in the car electronics anyway and can be broken down to speed,brakes etc?

I have a friend who works as a road crash investigator and they have obtained car info from Audi's before , BMW wouldnt release the data.

 

[Anonymous]

Hi Mikey the box isn't capable of telling who is driving the car on the drive I mentioned from Derby to Ellesmere Port I actually pulled his driving score down because I was stuck in that Cheshire Car park also known as the M6 my crime? I drove for over 2 and a half hours without a break not sure what I was supposed to do park on the hard shoulder for half an hour?
As I said it sucks every last bit of joy out of driving I think it would be reasonable for those who have had a ban to have a black box but putting in on all young driver is wrong for example my son has a part time job as a youth worker which means he finishes at 10 pm because he couldn't meet a 10pm curfew that cost him a further £600 would any of us accept that?

 

[Evil Derboy]

Don't believe everything you read in the mainstream press. They have a habit of twisting these things to create headlines.

Here's the real story and it's an old one. Not to mention nearly all BMWs have had this since 2007.

http://www.tyrepress.com/2014/07/despit ... em-exists/

Even if it does evolve into an opt out insurance telematics scheme, there's a large section of motoring enthusiasts (including me) who will opt out, thus creating a market niche for it and in turn companies will cater to the market.