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RCZ R - sell or store?

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Hi all,

I’d really welcome the thoughts of the group on what to do with my RCZ R, LP63DSZ in white with all the additional bells and whistles that were available at purchase. I bought it new in January 2014. It’s in excellent original condition, relatively low mileage (55000), has been serviced fully by Peugeot (including interim services for oil and filter changes twice as often as needed - serviced by Robins and Day in Hatfield who I have nothing but praise for) and has had the usual ‘issues’ addressed - two new high pressure fuel pumps (including, I believe, the new version that doesn’t suffer from the same problems as the old one), new disks and pads all round (all Peugeot originals - not the cheapest!), new front calipers and springs (the front springs have a tendency to snap) and an almost new set of tyres (I’ve kept to the original Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/40 ZR19 (92Y)) with a few light scuffs on the rims front alloys that could easily be sorted. The car has never been thrashed (even though it’s an R!) and drives like a dream. It’s mainly been used for long distance fun trips, rather than day to day use - drives to Scotland from Hertfordshire (where I’m based), or onto the Continent - France and Belgium. It drives extremely well, and the dealers always comment on how good it looks, even for its age. I’ve kept the warranty running (phew! It paid for the fuel pumps, springs and calipers) and haven’t spared any costs in keeping it in good condition.

So to the question. It’s going to hit the point in three years where the warranty can’t be extended. I’m thinking of either selling it (I was offered £7000 in p/x which seems rather low when I see what other RCZ R prices are, particularly for one that’s got full provenance!) or taking it off the road and storing it. The latter will have a cost attached (probably around £1000/year for proper storage with a friend’s company). I’m tending towards sale at the moment, but only if the price I can get is sensible. I’d genuinely welcome thoughts from the group! If it does go for sale, it will probably be in the next six months. Equally, I think the R will become THE future Peugeot Classic, alongside the 304S Cabriolet and the Peugeot Darl’mat.

Thanks!

Jordan.
 

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Why sell in 6 months when as you say the warranty can be extended for £299pa for next 3 year's? If you don't want the car sell it privately now (PX is a mugs game though as you actually own the car, you're not renting it) its probably a better market this time of the year and put it up for around £14-15.5k. You seem to have already written your advert just need a few pics of the car!

Reasons for storing it? You don't want to sell, love the car and wish to keep her mint and will drive on an ad hoc basis in Summer etc does that fit what you're thinking? If not, keeping purely as a future investment...can't see it's worth it from a financial angle at £1k plus pa storage charges unless that's not a financial burden? That said my R has increased in value in the 24 months I've had her by £3-4k over what I paid and the prices for low mileage etc they sell for now.

I have a fair few cars some are in 'storage' some have gained a lot in value some have not...it's not financially driven that's a bonus it's because I want to continue to own fettle, polish/wax and drive them in the Summer months.

I agree the R as a Halo low volume bespoke engineered model will at the very least retain its future value...there will not be another like it from Peugeot. I will not be selling mine even when i cannot extend the warranty in 3yrs time and it will remain garaged doing about 1k a year until I'm too old to get in it or they're banned.

What are you thinking of as a replacement?
 
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Great response, thank you! I think I’m probably in the same place. I’m thinking of getting an Audi S3 Sportsback next. My first non Peugeot acquisition in over 35 years of driving - because there are no ‘fun’ Peugeots anymore regrettably.
 

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I'd keep it and just enjoy it. Most of the "issues" been sorted. You have a lovely car.
Audi = 😴
 

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The trouble with storage is that once it's out of sight it's then out of mind and it will still deteriorate to some degree. I suggest selling it now with the extended 3-year warranty, if it's transferrable, and move on to your new exciting driving experience.
 

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Sell it & get the Money there are no pockets in a Shroud (only joking) if your suffering with Nasty bones like I do then let it go to a good home;)
 

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I guess it all depends on your means and other priorities. If you are able to keep funding it without too much trouble then why not keep it for the occasions you do want to use it? But I guess if you have other projects, interests and want to use the cash from the sale and stop paying out for it then it has to go. TBH I would rate it a much better car than any Audi and certainly an Audi A3. The RCZ-R certainly has a lot more character and rarity value. It's certainly a great looking car. I am in a similar situation, but I intend keeping mine for a few years yet. Mine has only done 25k, is garaged and like yours FPSH. I too have taken an extended Peugeot Assist warranty 2 years which was £199/year when I bought it and gives full breakdown cover with European cover as well. I need to renew it come September. I've thought of selling it as I have other projects and interests that take more of my time now, but when I do drive the RCZ-R it puts a big smile on my face. I just looked at the mileage and this last year I have driven 60 miles in it. I'm trying to keep the mileage down. Covid has helped in this respect.

Looking at RCZ values generally they have dropped a lot but these are cars that also tend to have high mileages 70k, 80k, 90k over 100k. Some have been used and abused, but I don't see well looked after low mileage RCZ-Rs amongst them. Peugeot isn't going to repeat a car like the RCZ-R any time soon given the way the move is to electric Greta friendly cars. I believe Peugeot have also ceased making the 308 GTi THP270 as well.
 
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Hi all,

I’d really welcome the thoughts of the group on what to do with my RCZ R, LP63DSZ in white with all the additional bells and whistles that were available at purchase. I bought it new in January 2014. It’s in excellent original condition, relatively low mileage (55000), has been serviced fully by Peugeot (including interim services for oil and filter changes twice as often as needed - serviced by Robins and Day in Hatfield who I have nothing but praise for) and has had the usual ‘issues’ addressed - two new high pressure fuel pumps (including, I believe, the new version that doesn’t suffer from the same problems as the old one), new disks and pads all round (all Peugeot originals - not the cheapest!), new front calipers and springs (the front springs have a tendency to snap) and an almost new set of tyres (I’ve kept to the original Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/40 ZR19 (92Y)) with a few light scuffs on the rims front alloys that could easily be sorted. The car has never been thrashed (even though it’s an R!) and drives like a dream. It’s mainly been used for long distance fun trips, rather than day to day use - drives to Scotland from Hertfordshire (where I’m based), or onto the Continent - France and Belgium. It drives extremely well, and the dealers always comment on how good it looks, even for its age. I’ve kept the warranty running (phew! It paid for the fuel pumps, springs and calipers) and haven’t spared any costs in keeping it in good condition.

So to the question. It’s going to hit the point in three years where the warranty can’t be extended. I’m thinking of either selling it (I was offered £7000 in p/x which seems rather low when I see what other RCZ R prices are, particularly for one that’s got full provenance!) or taking it off the road and storing it. The latter will have a cost attached (probably around £1000/year for proper storage with a friend’s company). I’m tending towards sale at the moment, but only if the price I can get is sensible. I’d genuinely welcome thoughts from the group! If it does go for sale, it will probably be in the next six months. Equally, I think the R will become THE future Peugeot Classic, alongside the 304S Cabriolet and the Peugeot Darl’mat.

Thanks!

Jordan.
Hi Jordan,
My son has just started tentatively looking into RCZ R ownership and I see that yours is now up for sale at a dealer near Mansfield (googled the number plate and happened upon this thread), advertised as a 1 owner car so I’m assuming you held on to it until recently when the warranty could no longer be extended ?


Any issues or anything you’d suggest looking out for if he did actually go to view it ?


Joe
 

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Hi Joe,

Thanks for the shout! And well spotted!

No, it’s a great car and I parted with it with sadness - I had only done 200 miles or so since the last service and really couldn’t do it justice. Nowhere permanent to store it and it just seemed sensible to get it in the hands of the next person to enjoy. I‘d bought a new Honda Civic hybrid as my main car in January this year, and so the time just seemed right to let the RCZ go. I’d definitely recommend your son takes a look. I’m a bit pedantic about looking after things and I can honestly say that everything on the RCZ was working as well as the day it was delivered new!

Best,

Jordan.
 

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Price for it looks reasonable & with full history. I'd say budget for front discs change & potential calipers refurb in case Peugeot replace the pistons with the original mild steel ones.

Godspeed is the place to get them refurbished with better pistons. For front discs, Alcon front discs were around £700/pair. Tarox also an option or if Godspeed still do ones for the R. They are still listed on Pug1off site.
 

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I’ve left a set of Godspeed pistons and a repair kit with it amusingly! The calipers were replaced under warranty at 42k I think, but I got the kits for a refurb at some point.
 

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My opinion, I have read a lot about this so called Godspeed replacement pistons/ repair kits etc.

The fact is for any R moving forward all parts need to be original, the R is probably one of the very few cars on the road from the manufacturer, that there is simply no point in trying to better how it came from the manufacturer.

I don’t see stainless pistons as an upgrade from the chrome one’s, Alcon know what they are doing, any car with racing brakes will not live well outdoors, especially in a British climate.

There are many grades of stainless and there is no guarantee they won’t rust! (There is no mention of what grade they are using or guarantee or how they provide better braking in use as intended compared to the Alcon pistons)

The car in this thread is a decent buy, for someone who wants to enter R ownership Cheaply, MOT history is poor therefore for me sets the price.

A one owner car makes it very attractive, and providing full history with dealer receipts it’s worth the money.

Again moving forward, people will need deep pockets to own an R, but values will sore once they drop to around 100 left in the UK, or even less, current sorned vehicles is evidence of this.
 
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My opinion, I have read a lot about this so called Godspeed replacement pistons/ repair kits etc.

The fact is for any R moving forward all parts need to be original, the R is probably one of the very few cars on the road from the manufacturer, that there is simply no point in trying to better how it came from the manufacturer.

I don’t see stainless pistons as an upgrade from the chrome one’s, Alcon know what they are doing, any car with racing brakes will not live well outdoors, especially in a British climate.

There are many grades of stainless and there is no guarantee they won’t rust! (There is no mention of what grade they are using or guarantee or how they provide better braking in use as intended compared to the Alcon pistons)

The car in this thread is a decent buy, for someone who wants to enter R ownership Cheaply, MOT history is poor therefore for me sets the price.

A one owner car makes it very attractive, and providing full history with dealer receipts it’s worth the money.

Again moving forward, people will need deep pockets to own an R, but values will sore once they drop to around 100 left in the UK, or even less, current sorned vehicles is evidence of this.


The pistons have to be replaced. It's not an option. The brakes only function correctly for one set of brake pads.

Nobody is going to look for originality down to defective parts. it's a simple hidden part.

The original pistons are mild steel with a chrome coating. The chrome coating fails and the pistons seize in the caliper. It affects braking performance before it becomes dangerous.
 

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I don’t see stainless pistons as an upgrade from the chrome one’s, Alcon know what they are doing, any car with racing brakes will not live well outdoors, especially in a British climate.
Its a upgrade cos the original are chromeplated and once the plated bit comes off they pistons seize onto the calipers , hence you will have no brakes. It started to seize on mine lucky swopped they in time else I would have to buy new calipers.
 

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Hi Jordan,
My son has just started tentatively looking into RCZ R ownership and I see that yours is now up for sale at a dealer near Mansfield (googled the number plate and happened upon this thread), advertised as a 1 owner car so I’m assuming you held on to it until recently when the warranty could no longer be extended ?


Any issues or anything you’d suggest looking out for if he did actually go to view it ?


Joe
Hi Joe - did your son go for it in the end?
 

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Hi Joe - did your son go for it in the end?
Hi Jordan,
No, car was sold within a few days before we’d have been able to get up to see it - Mansfield a long way from Essex, someone else obviously realised it looked a good deal too !

Joe
 

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Hi Jordan,
No, car was sold within a few days before we’d have been able to get up to see it - Mansfield a long way from Essex, someone else obviously realised it looked a good deal too !

Joe
That’s a shame! I’d be interested to hear who bought it!
 

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Person who bought it is on FB, it has just passed its MOT first time and he is loving the car.

Looks a really well looked after car.
 
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