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Hi, has anyone had their "R" re-mapped, if so what were the improvements, ...that apart was the "R" under-tuned to comply with various countries emissions standards etc ? What in anyone's opinion is the max tuning torque -bhp keeping within safety parameters?.

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Hi and welcome, I have a mate who’s a forum member who’s had his R remapped and says it’s well worth doing with very noticeable power gains throughout but it’s the better throttle response and midrange that’s most impressive. His is knocking the 300bhp mark and evening the racing cup cars don’t do much more due to reliability issues.
 

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Thanks for that.....what would you recommend re-map or chip ? Any suggestions as to a reputable tuner ?
 

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I would definitely go remap, there are so many tuners now probably better to go to one who is conversant with the RCZ and have a dyno
 

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270BHP in a car this light is not enough? o_O ;)

There is never enough power ;)
I for myself never missed power in my R. Sure, there have been those very rare occasions where I was pulling with an cockster or gayman at +120 MPH and a few more ponnies would have helped there. But those have always been the exemption.
I valued the balance between power/traction higher than pure acceleration power. A spikey power delivery would spoil a fluent and very fast tackling of corners.

Looking forward to hear if @Fenderjaz will find a proper company to do the rolling road remap for his R.
 

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Hello
the main concern of the reprog on the R is its intercooler
 

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Hello
the main concern of the reprog on the R is its intercooler

In what regards?
During my ownership of the R I never managed to read out the IAT (Intake Air Temperature) on the engine. This would help me out find out if the IC gets too hot while accelerating.
I always restrained from pushing her hard when there was +30°C ambient temp. But I also never felt a power delivery drop due to overheating. So the IC worked as designed. Nevertheless a readout would have been helpful.
 

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a member of the rcz france fan club did a stage 2 on his R and with a bigger custom intercooler he crossed the 300cv
to know that rare are the R to have the 270cv announced, and little exceeds the 260cv
 

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Mine R had no trouble reaching the stated 270PS. And I trust the dyno I did the measurement on. I did few other cars on that dyno with comparable results.

I know about some bullcrap stories posted on FB coming from some tuning companies claiming the RCZ R pulls only about 250 or less ponies.
Sure, there might have been few owners who trashed the engine right from the first start and suffer from less power than claimed. But the best device/advice on "measuring power" is always the good ol comparison with other vehicles on the road. In there, the R proved to deliver.
 

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I saw a lot of thp270 video and rare are those with 270
 

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I saw a lot of thp270 video and rare are those with 270

Sure. As I wrote there are always those who don't know how to run-in and maintain an engine like the R has.

I have a buddy of mine and he managed to kill the R engine on his 308 GTi within few months. Got a new one on warranty.
Honestly I don't get it how he did that.
The amount of stress and strain I put on my R on all those autobahn blasts is exceptional. Still the engine took it and kept it power figures. Was I lucky with my R? I don't think so cause I did similar with previous cars of mine, all turbocharged and some of them tuned on the dyno to max capacity of stock elements.

This whole topic of "RCZ R does not deliver 270 ponnies" should have its own thread, hehe. I wonder what all owners would tell about it.
 

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mine only came out 265hp, my hdi 156hp, and many others in France we do not have the power to announce

after why in English if, ca I would not explain it
 

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Hi, my main concerns are 1. I don't want to put undue stresses on the engine beyond its safety parameters, or premature failure of parts. 2. I don't want to compromise handling for xtra power, as I presume the car is set up for 270bhp. + Surely Peugeot Sport have tweaked it to optimal performance already.
 

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as written above, one of my members crossed 300hp, and a company via other mods including turbo hybrid reached 350hp, and it seems to hold
 

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A R owner has recently been running his car at around 300bhp, and at 30K decided to strip the motor down to check for wear and to put a modified oil pump in, he was happily surprised at how little wear he could find on the engine internals.
 

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Hi, my main concerns are 1. I don't want to put undue stresses on the engine beyond its safety parameters, or premature failure of parts. 2. I don't want to compromise handling for xtra power, as I presume the car is set up for 270bhp. + Surely Peugeot Sport have tweaked it to optimal performance already.

It starts with the question what your reason for engine tuning is. Do you want improve straight line acceleration? Or more power in the low or high rev range? What is more important to you, just the sheer power possible with an engine like that or to keep that balance of power/torque/traction while driving?

The only mod I did to my R was to remove the top speed limiter. It was something which was really annoying to me when above 240 kmh the fuel pressure was taken away and the car slowed down the acceleration towards top speed. I wanted the R to run free. So it did. There were not a lot of occasions to do +155MPH. But it could do it when asked.
But for the rest, like handling, braking, stability in corners on/off accelerator, LSD traction, I was very happy with the setup. Wouldn't have changed anything.
 

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on Facebook yesterday RCZ Group chap mapped his R in Belgium to 291bhp and 422nm his OE was 268bhp+ and 354 nm.

As being debated above Peugeot stated the R had 267bhp, the one's I have seen dyno charts of are all around this figure. Not sure where 250bhp is from perhaps that was the RCZ race series before the R?
From my limited experience of tuning turbo charged cars; remapping, upping the boost, decat etc it is the heat that that helps kill them so an uprated IC is the first port of call if running more power on the R. I am happy OE as any blown turbo's or melted pistons etc it will be straight back to Peugeot.

Fenderjaz reading through what you don't want to do to your R would lead me to presume that you actually don't want a remap to achieve more power as it will do all the things you have listed to some degree to the car?
 
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